Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"My mom gets really upset that we do not eat in the dining room every night (mostly eat at breakfast bar in kitchen as it seats 4) and that we don't use cloth napkins or china plates every night."
My mother taught me that only the help or poor people eat in the kitchen.
All of this insight totally explains DCUM.
First poster in chain here. Did you not realize how much more prevalent class distinctions were in past generations? My mother is always saying what is (was) low class and I just listen and then do what I want. She is in her 70s and it was a different world back then. My grandmothers were even more so.
in past generations, It was not as easy to move between classes, it didn't always have to do with money, and you couldn't research things on the Internet to find out how other people did things. There also wasn't as easily accessible media- tv and movies have led to us all acting more similarly. Class distinction are much less prevalent these days because most everyone has access to everything and its much harder to be oblivious of others' SES social norms. Also, few folks have full time, live in, household help anymore (which served to highlight class distinctions like who eats where) because now most everyone has machines, like dishwashers and washing machines, and services, like dry cleaning and pea pod, to handle all those old fashioned tasks for you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can top that (for outdated sayings). My grandmother referred to the refrigerator as "ice box" (it was once a container that held a square chunk of ice) and purses were always "pocket-bags". Love it. Wore a girdle and hose until the day she died (97).
Mother in law called the microwave, "the radar range" and sometimes called the car, "a machine." (Along with all those other old lady words like pocketbook, icebox, market, dungarees, luncheon, parlor, galoshes, and the front stoop.). Oh, and "Bully for you!"
I say pocketbook, market, luncheon, parlor, galoshes and front stoop.
Well, Bully for you ole gal! But I don't believe you say those words in context if you are under 60. Nobody even has a parlor anymore. We now have media rooms. Of course, MIL still said we played "parlor games" in there. And luncheon? Everybody shortens that to lunch these days (except for the formal office meal). I suppose you have a lunch pail, too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who said it is more of a class distinction--working class people tend to say supper. This is just my observation.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/22446/lunch-vs-dinner-vs-supper-times-and-meanings
Employee announcing "Dinner is served". Obvious class distinction.
Anonymous wrote:Wait a cotton-pickin' minute here! You mean a cold meal at midday is LUNCH and a hot midday meal is DINNER? All this time I've been eating two dinners apparently!
My mom never served a cold lunch, and to this day, I detest cold foods that are meant to be meals. Cold= breakfast or snack. I guess my midwest roots are showing too!