Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 15:21     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
On the letter for cogat, the childs age including months is listed indicating the scores were adjusted for age somehow.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 15:17     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Anonymous wrote:I just called the testing office and spoke with a very helpful testing specialist who confirmed that this year's CogAT form for second graders was NOT scored by age. Ugh, not good for my young-for-his-grade child. Whether you are already 8 years old, or you are the youngest second grader in FCPS, all the scores are considered the same way. The specialist did say that if you request a retest in a different year, all the other forms are scaled by age, so it is only this year's second grade form where age does not matter. He did not know whether AAP selection committee would consider age in any determinations. He pointed out that the Naglieri was scaled by age and other tests such as WISC are accepted for the AAP application as well.


NNAT is age normed but not CogAT? Doesn't make sense. FCPS or the testing center folks are really nuts!!
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 15:14     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
To 14:48 That does not make sense. Its already known that if you score above 95 percentile you are in the pool in one of the 3 cogat tests.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 15:08     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
But statistically/historically your chances of acceptance are somewhat less if you are parent-referred versus in the pool, if only because your test scores are lower, so it seems understandable to want to be in the pool.

Composite score would be good to know since it seems to equate roughly to an IQ score, so it would be interesting to hear if 95% on CogAT was 132 and so the same standard as the NNAT. Probably it must be so even if not stated?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:58     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Anonymous wrote:Why would it be helpful?


Probably so they know if they are in the pool or not.

Of course it doesn't matter if a student is in the pool or not as students can be referred and treated Just The Same as a student that is in the pool.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:51     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Why would it be helpful?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:43     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
What would be most helpful to know is what composite score qualifies for 95th-ile.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:42     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Wow, so I guess this will just lead to more redshirting!
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:42     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Wow, not separating by age really makes a big difference to those sent on time when compared with kids given the gift of time that are 18 months older.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:42     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Wow, so I guess this will just lead to more redshirting!
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:40     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
I just called the testing office and spoke with a very helpful testing specialist who confirmed that this year's CogAT form for second graders was NOT scored by age. Ugh, not good for my young-for-his-grade child. Whether you are already 8 years old, or you are the youngest second grader in FCPS, all the scores are considered the same way. The specialist did say that if you request a retest in a different year, all the other forms are scaled by age, so it is only this year's second grade form where age does not matter. He did not know whether AAP selection committee would consider age in any determinations. He pointed out that the Naglieri was scaled by age and other tests such as WISC are accepted for the AAP application as well.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 14:11     Subject: Re:CogAt scores letter?
I believe it is a percentile rank based on where the scores fall when compared to the rest of the FCPS second grade population--not separated by age. I have not heard anything about different scales by race or disability status. This test is administered to all second grade students who are participating in the general education instructional program (ESOL, special ed., etc).
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 13:55     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
It does not say how they age adjust. What I would love to know is how many missed questions equals 95%.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 13:33     Subject: CogAt scores letter?
Anonymous wrote:3 subsets% and composite %


Is percentile ranked by age group or all 2nd graders?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2013 13:02     Subject: Re:CogAt scores letter?
Thank you! Best answer yet.
Anonymous wrote:

Blacks and Hispanics don't have an automatic admission into AAP or Algebra 1 in 7th.

For example: My child is black and we were actually discouraged from allowing our child to stay, "in pool." We were encouraged by the teacher to have our DC placed in level 3 because our DC, "wouldn't be able to keep up with the rigors of level 4." We were told by the teacher that students who are different sometimes struggle. When I pressed what "different" meant the teacher clammed up and refused to elaborate. My child got 99th percentile on each sub-test of Cogat, 98th percentile on NNAT, GBRS was 13, above grade level in every subject. Needless to say our child was accepted into AAP. Doing GREAT! All fours and two grade levels ahead in math.

As a parent of a black child I have been discouraged by other parent's comments many times but I just keep encouraging my child to shoot for the top. Some people may not expect very much of our children but I do. I can't tell you how many people think my child got in on some sort of quota but my DC runs circles around them academically. I just smile knowing that the important thing is we are moving away from that sort of biased thinking in our country and my child is helping to pave the way.