Anonymous
01/11/2013 23:12
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There aren't any "SELA Boosters". The school doesn't exist yet.
Tell that to the people who bring it up at every opportunity, relevant to the discussion/thread or not. Does not matter to them that the school does not exist yet.
So some people think it's a good idea.
So some people are enthusiastic about it.
So what?
Were you brought up to punch people in the face every time they smile or say something positive, or what?
Anonymous
01/11/2013 22:58
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of you will get in to YY, MV, LAMB, Stokes, etc. and don't want your kids mingling with kids at D.C. Bilingual...so hate on Sela or form your own charter, and then when you end up in some cramped church basement - you will remember all of the criticism waged at Sela (or YY, or Basis, or Latin, or whomever your bashing for kicks these days) and wish you'd been a little bit kinder...Witness the bashing of MV for getting itself a new space...not green enough, whine whine. Get over yourselves!
What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
Additionally, DC Bilingual is just as hard to lottery into as the others on your list.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 22:50
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:There aren't any "SELA Boosters". The school doesn't exist yet.
Tell that to the people who bring it up at every opportunity, relevant to the discussion/thread or not. Does not matter to them that the school does not exist yet.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 22:45
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
There aren't any "SELA Boosters". The school doesn't exist yet.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 22:13
Subject: Re:SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
An alliance with the Director of Central Intelligence?! Wow, the spook community is starting its recruiting earlier and earlier.
There has been a lot of trash talk about D.C. Bilingual having low-SES Hispanic students, inferior Spanish, parents who illiterate in native Spanish. Really nasty stuff. Spanish immersion only works on upper 16th St. with white students, you see...
I have not heard one Sela organizer assert they will be part of DCI. A friend of mine asked them at the expo, and they told her they were focusing on the grades that they will have in the next few years, but that they intended to expand to k-12. She asked them about DCI, and they said they had no idea, but that YY and LAMB are roles models for them, and they hoped it is a success, and that they would be honored to be part of it, if there were space available several years down the road. I looked for all of you nay-sayers evidence that Sela said they would definitely be part of DCI. One (1) person said it, and it was pretty clear they were stating an opinion...and not representing the school. So really, I don't get it. My son is SN and I wouldn't put him in any immersion program...but you all really take the cake.
SELA organizers have not said anything on this board but their boosters have asserted a lot even though the school haven't opened and on every thread about DCI.
As for SN, every immersion language charters has kids with IEPs like every other public school. Expect the same for SELA when it opens.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 21:44
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If teaching Hebrew makes Sela a "Jewish" school, then apparently the exact same logic would make any school that teaches Spanish a "Catholic" school, since most people who speak Spanish are Catholic.
Faulty logic.
Oh wow, the real faulty logic here is clearly yours. Spanish has not been kept alive by Catholicsm--you might have had a point if you had said Latin. Might.
The Hebrew language only exists today because of Judaism, and spoken Hebrew was 'reborn' in the 20th century.
Ladino is an centuries-old Spanish-based language kept alive by Jews. Yiddish is centuries-old German-based language kept alive by Jews.
History shows that Jews aren't just about keeping Hebrew alive.
And, in fact, Italian, Portuguese, French and Spanish are all Latin-based languages that were kept alive for hundreds of years from the fall of the Roman Empire by monastic scribes who were part of the Catholic church, promoted through various powerful Catholic institutions to include the Holy Roman Empire, to its successive kingdoms and monarchic dynasties that split off from Charlemagne's heirs, all swearing allegiance to the Catholic Church, and which still had significant influence right into the last 100 years.
Brush up on your history.
You really won't win any arguments about who's keeping what alive if you are going to selectively pick and choose your arguments.
It's Friday night. You high on something? There seems to be a disconnect between your words and the actual origin of Romance languages.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 18:37
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If teaching Hebrew makes Sela a "Jewish" school, then apparently the exact same logic would make any school that teaches Spanish a "Catholic" school, since most people who speak Spanish are Catholic.
Faulty logic.
Oh wow, the real faulty logic here is clearly yours. Spanish has not been kept alive by Catholicsm--you might have had a point if you had said Latin. Might.
The Hebrew language only exists today because of Judaism, and spoken Hebrew was 'reborn' in the 20th century.
Ladino is an centuries-old Spanish-based language kept alive by Jews. Yiddish is centuries-old German-based language kept alive by Jews.
History shows that Jews aren't just about keeping Hebrew alive.
And, in fact, Italian, Portuguese, French and Spanish are all Latin-based languages that were kept alive for hundreds of years from the fall of the Roman Empire by monastic scribes who were part of the Catholic church, promoted through various powerful Catholic institutions to include the Holy Roman Empire, to its successive kingdoms and monarchic dynasties that split off from Charlemagne's heirs, all swearing allegiance to the Catholic Church, and which still had significant influence right into the last 100 years.
Brush up on your history.
You really won't win any arguments about who's keeping what alive if you are going to selectively pick and choose your arguments.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 18:31
Subject: Re:SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
An alliance with the Director of Central Intelligence?! Wow, the spook community is starting its recruiting earlier and earlier.
There has been a lot of trash talk about D.C. Bilingual having low-SES Hispanic students, inferior Spanish, parents who illiterate in native Spanish. Really nasty stuff. Spanish immersion only works on upper 16th St. with white students, you see...
I have not heard one Sela organizer assert they will be part of DCI. A friend of mine asked them at the expo, and they told her they were focusing on the grades that they will have in the next few years, but that they intended to expand to k-12. She asked them about DCI, and they said they had no idea, but that YY and LAMB are roles models for them, and they hoped it is a success, and that they would be honored to be part of it, if there were space available several years down the road. I looked for all of you nay-sayers evidence that Sela said they would definitely be part of DCI. One (1) person said it, and it was pretty clear they were stating an opinion...and not representing the school. So really, I don't get it. My son is SN and I wouldn't put him in any immersion program...but you all really take the cake.
Thanks for the explanation, now i understand the comment. What a bunch of bitches.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 18:28
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous
What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
"Actual talks about a possible alliance with DCI" is certainly possible. But given that the other 3 founding charters who participated in the original idea have not officially amended their charters and joined on, and also given that Sela isn't even open yet, any actual finalization of that is still at LEAST years away.
It would be a huge mistake for Sela outreach folks to start including any mention of inclusion in DCI unless the founding schools have officially said that is the direction they see DCI going in and how soon they see it. Any assertions prior to that endorsement of the founding schools would be worse than premature - it would be inappropriate and misleading bordering on fraudulent.
I apologize for the misunderstanding PP, I meant DC Bilingual was engaged in talks to join DCI. I still don't know why the other poster knocked DC Bilingual. It is an immersion school doing great things with it's student population.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 18:26
Subject: Re:SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
An alliance with the Director of Central Intelligence?! Wow, the spook community is starting its recruiting earlier and earlier.
There has been a lot of trash talk about D.C. Bilingual having low-SES Hispanic students, inferior Spanish, parents who illiterate in native Spanish. Really nasty stuff. Spanish immersion only works on upper 16th St. with white students, you see...
I have not heard one Sela organizer assert they will be part of DCI. A friend of mine asked them at the expo, and they told her they were focusing on the grades that they will have in the next few years, but that they intended to expand to k-12. She asked them about DCI, and they said they had no idea, but that YY and LAMB are roles models for them, and they hoped it is a success, and that they would be honored to be part of it, if there were space available several years down the road. I looked for all of you nay-sayers evidence that Sela said they would definitely be part of DCI. One (1) person said it, and it was pretty clear they were stating an opinion...and not representing the school. So really, I don't get it. My son is SN and I wouldn't put him in any immersion program...but you all really take the cake.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 18:20
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of uptight parents. I'm sorry for any schools in which any of your children are enrolled because they have to or will have to deal with all your atrocious personalities.
Man, you should look in the mirror!
Anonymous
01/11/2013 18:02
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
What a bunch of uptight parents. I'm sorry for any schools in which any of your children are enrolled because they have to or will have to deal with all your atrocious personalities.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 17:55
Subject: Re:SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
An alliance with the Director of Central Intelligence?! Wow, the spook community is starting its recruiting earlier and earlier.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 17:54
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of you will get in to YY, MV, LAMB, Stokes, etc. and don't want your kids mingling with kids at D.C. Bilingual...so hate on Sela or form your own charter, and then when you end up in some cramped church basement - you will remember all of the criticism waged at Sela (or YY, or Basis, or Latin, or whomever your bashing for kicks these days) and wish you'd been a little bit kinder...Witness the bashing of MV for getting itself a new space...not green enough, whine whine. Get over yourselves!
What's wrong with DC Bilingual. I am honestly interested in your logic. BTW, I understand this school is really in actual talks with a possible alliance with DCI.
"Actual talks about a possible alliance with DCI" is certainly possible. But given that the other 3 founding charters who participated in the original idea have not officially amended their charters and joined on, and also given that Sela isn't even open yet, any actual finalization of that is still at LEAST years away.
It would be a huge mistake for Sela outreach folks to start including any mention of inclusion in DCI unless the founding schools have officially said that is the direction they see DCI going in and how soon they see it. Any assertions prior to that endorsement of the founding schools would be worse than premature - it would be inappropriate and misleading bordering on fraudulent.
Anonymous
01/11/2013 17:49
Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:None of you will get in to YY, MV, LAMB, Stokes, etc. and don't want your kids mingling with kids at D.C. Bilingual...so hate on Sela or form your own charter, and then when you end up in some cramped church basement - you will remember all of the criticism waged at Sela (or YY, or Basis, or Latin, or whomever your bashing for kicks these days) and wish you'd been a little bit kinder...Witness the bashing of MV for getting itself a new space...not green enough, whine whine. Get over yourselves!
Riiight. Because, all the kids currently in those schools, well... they never got in either! Yeah! They, erm, uh.....
Oh, right. They DID get in, through the lottery, which is random, which means even for the few tiny slots available at those schools, SOMEONE will get in.
And for many of us, if we don't get into those schools, we have other priorities in our kids' educations that rise WAY above applying to a Hebrew language school.
It's fine and great, go for Sela if that's what you want, more power to you. But to assert that everyone who doesn't get a spot at one of those high-demand schools that teach far more useful languages will all flock to Sela... well let's just say I hope the Sela founders have a way better plan for attracting students than your idea, cuz if not, they're up the creek.
And again, unless Sela can afford to pay for that free before/after care for years to come, they need a better back up plan for retaining students too if that is the hook that got them in the door.