Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).
Um, she didn't allow swastikas. Why don't you please step away from Wikipedia and read books with substance. She made a lot of mistakes. This is not one of them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).
Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.
I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
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Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes,lll collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).
This is normal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Ma
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes,lll collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
It's hard to believe their parents allowed swastikas in their home. The thought horrifies me, and I'm not even Jewish (but a relative was killed while saving Jews).
Anonymous wrote:
Please describe the "good" homes you think these kids came from....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.
I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.
Please describe your idea of a "good parent".
Existing in a bubble, disconnected from your child?
I think she was very naive, but I think there were things she didn't want to see:
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/16/466618817/sue-klebold-mother-of-columbine-shooter-carries-him-everywhere-i-go-always
Columbine was really a watershed moment in gun violence. Yet in terms of access and availability of mental health services or restriction on gun sales, there's nothing to show for all the pain that the families of the victims endured. None for the families for the theatre shootings,Virginia Tech, Newtown...the things change the more they stay the same
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.
I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.
Please describe your idea of a "good parent".
Existing in a bubble, disconnected from your child?

Anonymous wrote:The book is really well done. And, it will give any parent pause. Obviously, she portrays her family in a very different light and we of course are left with questions and our own judgments as human beings. But, I do believe that she was a good mother. The things that you think she knew (hate speech, swastikas, the guns) , I'm convinced that she didn't. She was in complete denial about her son's involvement until she saw the 'basement tapes' made by her son and Eric Harris.
I have great empathy for all involved including the Klebold and Harris families. Yes, it is possible that your heart can break for all of the victims.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.
I think both teens were equally messed up:
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-harris-235982#attack-on-columbine-high
Wearing swastikas, committing petty crimes, collecting guns, videotaping and documenting their plans--they both did this. Both sets of parents, the school were out of touch and let alienated, mentally ill youth go way off the rails.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The Boston bombers friends helped him get rid of the evidence--they knew he was guilty; they knew people died and were maimed. Klebold and Harris' friends knew what was going to happen. No one says anything.
Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the book or seen the interviews, but I find it interesting that Harris is portrayed as the psychopath and Klebold as the follower. That may be true. But as an outside observer, it does seem like most of the "blame" if you will, is attributed to Harris. And it's Harris's family we haven't heard from, whereas we have heard from Klebolds.
Again, I'm not entirely reading anything into this. I would like to hear from the Harris family. They certainly have a right to privacy and don't owe us anything, but the "true story" (if there ever even is such a thing) is certainly incomplete without their perspective.