Anonymous wrote:"I'm a teacher. I'd give up "ridiculous perks" and long vacations if they showed me the money."

LMAO! I'm a lawyer; my best friend is a teacher (H.S. public). I've put in far more time, money, blood, sweat and tears to get to where I am and to make the money I make. There's no comparison between taking some bullshit masters classes in education and the hazing and stress of law school, passing the bar, and being trained as a lawyer.

You have no idea what it takes to become a teacher now, do you? It took me 7 years of school (undergrad then grad) and 8 standardized exams. Three internships. Three 90+ page papers on said internships. And I'm not sure what your friend's job is like, but teaching is stressful.

"I'm a teacher. I'd give up "ridiculous perks" and long vacations if they showed me the money."

LMAO! I'm a lawyer; my best friend is a teacher (H.S. public). I've put in far more time, money, blood, sweat and tears to get to where I am and to make the money I make. There's no comparison between taking some bullshit masters classes in education and the hazing and stress of law school, passing the bar, and being trained as a lawyer.

^^ this is not that much different from a masters' degreed person in a nonprofit or an association. I have a friend who's editor of a presitigous monthly association magazine and makes about $85K and it took her awhile to get there.

She has good benefits as teachers do, but not nearly as much time off.

If you look at what teacher's pay for their health insurance and compare it with what private sector employees pay, you get a better comparison.

We get good insurance through DH's work but it costs us $700 a month in premiums plus thousands in deductibles and co-pays. I figured once it's about $14K a year. So you'd have to add that on to a teacher's salary to compare.

80,000 with a doctorate working a 12 month year for moco. Woul be higher if not for the pay freeze for the last 3years. The average salary in moco for a 10 month teacher is $75,000. If you are a career teacher and put in 20 years, you will have a low six figure salary.

You must not have been a very good teacher, PP, if you had to leave to become a lawyer.

Anonymous wrote:I was a public school teacher and now I'm a lawyer. As a lawyer I probably work twice as many hours. And saying teachers work 10 months a year is not really accurate. In addition to summer, teachers also get spring break and a winter break, plus every federal holiday. I loved being a teacher - the money was fine (35 K about 10 years ago in a cheaper city), and the perks were ridiculous. I was definitely not underpaid.

How does that compare to your job now? How many days off do you get a year? Do you get federal holidays? I think about 2 weeks off plus federal holidays isn't that much different, right?

How much time did you put into while teaching? Its not uncommon to find teachers putting in an additional 10-30 hours a week due to meetings, prep, etc. If you're the type of teacher who just xeroxes worksheets and teaches straight from textbooks it doesn't take much extra effort (though that's lazy and you do a huge disservice to your students).

Anonymous wrote:I was a public school teacher and now I'm a lawyer. As a lawyer I probably work twice as many hours. And saying teachers work 10 months a year is not really accurate. In addition to summer, teachers also get spring break and a winter break, plus every federal holiday. I loved being a teacher - the money was fine (35 K about 10 years ago in a cheaper city), and the perks were ridiculous. I was definitely not underpaid.

What did you teach? And HOW LONG did you teach?

Try teaching AP English and then tell me you weren't underpaid, overworked, and "over-perked." My breaks were spent planning and grading. Try working with struggling ESOL kids at the same time, and tell me the same thing.

You sound like an arrogant asshole, and I seriously doubt you were that good at what you do.

You're better off pushing paperwork around your desk, and I, for one (although I'm sure I speak for others), am glad you're gone.

Anonymous wrote:I was a public school teacher and now I'm a lawyer. As a lawyer I probably work twice as many hours. And saying teachers work 10 months a year is not really accurate. In addition to summer, teachers also get spring break and a winter break, plus every federal holiday. I loved being a teacher - the money was fine (35 K about 10 years ago in a cheaper city), and the perks were ridiculous. I was definitely not underpaid.

How much do you make now as a lawyer? And why did you change professions if you loved it? Didn't make enough money?

I'm a teacher. I'd give up "ridiculous perks" and long vacations if they showed me the money.

I was a public school teacher and now I'm a lawyer. As a lawyer I probably work twice as many hours. And saying teachers work 10 months a year is not really accurate. In addition to summer, teachers also get spring break and a winter break, plus every federal holiday. I loved being a teacher - the money was fine (35 K about 10 years ago in a cheaper city), and the perks were ridiculous. I was definitely not underpaid.

Anonymous wrote:To those of you who say that the time off in the summer is unpaid: IT'S NOT.

You get an annual salary that includes those weeks off. Your compensation is annual -- so that time isn't unpaid.

Come on.

It depends on the school district/state. Some pay only for the 10 months. Others stretch the 10 month salary out over 12 months - its the same yearly salary each paycheck is smaller. A teacher getting 45K over 10 months is the same as getting 45K over 12 months.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend with a Master makes $100k+, middle school special ed in MoCo.

MoCo teachers might be the best paid in the area.

My friend with a masters in special ed makes the same but she's an asst princ. at a middle school. Maybe it's the same friend? Once you move into admin you start making that kind of money, not the teacher though.

No, she's not in admin.

If you've been in the system long enough you make 6 figures. It took me 15 years plus a Master's to make $95,000 - and that was in a 12-month position as an instructional specialist.

So don't think your friend hasn't put in her time. Most people working THAT long - in other professions, I'll add - made 6 figures way before the a 15 or 20 year mark.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend with a Master makes $100k+, middle school special ed in MoCo.

MoCo teachers might be the best paid in the area.

My friend with a masters in special ed makes the same but she's an asst princ. at a middle school. Maybe it's the same friend? Once you move into admin you start making that kind of money, not the teacher though.

No, she's not in admin.

If you've been in the system long enough you make 6 figures. It took me 15 years plus a Master's to make $95,000 - and that was in a 12-month position as an instructional specialist.

So don't think your friend hasn't put in her time. Most people working THAT long made 6 figures way before the a 15 or 20 year mark.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend with a Master makes $100k+, middle school special ed in MoCo.

MoCo teachers might be the best paid in the area.

My friend with a masters in special ed makes the same but she's an asst princ. at a middle school. Maybe it's the same friend? Once you move into admin you start making that kind of money, not the teacher though.

No, she's not in admin.

Anonymous wrote:Teachers, lots of other jobs out there in OfficeWorld a waitin' for you if you're not happy with what you've got. Just sayin'.

I've seen many colleagues leave for office jobs - only to blow away their new colleagues and move ahead b/c they're so damn efficient and organized.

So maybe - for the sake of job security - this shouldn't be encouraged.

Just sayin'

Anonymous wrote:teachers, et al: please explain to us who held guns to your heads and forced you to choose your profession and/or is inhibiting you from choosing one which would be a better fit.

Why the need to be repetitive?
05/11/2012 22:22

Are you that dumb that you can't remember you already posted?