Honestly, I find it really gross that the focus would be sympathy for either this mom or the CT mom. Yes, I suppose that it is somewhat sad that they both lost their children through negligent actions that they felt unlikely to lead to this result (no matter how unrealistic that percenption may have been). But whether they were rich, poor, white, or African American, I really think that the focus of our sympathies should be with the children who undoubtedly died horrific and painful deaths in fires in both instances.

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So poor people are too stupid to know how children are created? I think they are smarter than that, but some people just choose to be irresponsible. All the PP's were saying is that one option to not keep having children is keeping your legs closed. Your argument is, those poor people in Louisiana don't know how to do that? or it's just too much to expect that of them?

That's a horrible and insulting argument.

That does seem to be the argument here. That poor people are just too stupid to make good decisions. She didn't chose to leave her kids unattended. She was just a victim of her circumstances.

It says way more about you than it does about me that you read it that way.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

Why exactly does she get sympathy, and she should, when the woman in this story experienced a similar tragedy receive scorn and condemnation from a bunch of lily privileged shrews in DC metro area.

cold as it may sound, i don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the rich white woman from CT, either, because she, too, made terrible choices and has to live with the horrible, likely preventable, consequences. but to answer your question, that woman didn't leave four (of her five) kids alone in a mobile home.

No, she just let some dude she was screwing clean out a fireplace that was still hot and stack it next to the house.
Dead is dead. Her children are just as dead. And it was just as preventable.

Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

Why exactly does she get sympathy, and she should, when the woman in this story experienced a similar tragedy receive scorn and condemnation from a bunch of lily privileged shrews in DC metro area.

11:48 here, and this is what I was alluding to. Thank you for saying it much better and nicer than I can, but this thread has pissed me off.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

I don't know much about this CT story. Did the mom leave her 3 kids unattended in the house? If so, she doesn't deserve much sympathy. Any mom who has left her kids unattended several times is acting irresponsibly.

No, she just had all the fire alarms disconnected while her family slept in the home. So, in theory, the children were left unprotected in case of a fire. the children perished. The parents perished. The mother is left grief stricken. I would think that the mother in Lousiana is also grief stricken. You people are freaking talking about how many sexual partners this woman has had in her life. For all you know, it has only been three. I really don't care if it has been thirty. Women on DCUM has had that many from freshmen to senior year of college. I guess I defend the mom because regardless of the circumstances, she lost her babies. And that is what is missing from this thread. It is full of self-righteous sanctimonious shrews.

She left her kids ALONE at night. And, according to the article, this has happened before. Her 2 year old was found by a neighbor walking the streets alone at midnight another time.

I don't care how many men she's slept with, but she was negligent here. This woman had a history of leaving her kids at home alone. She should have had her kids taken away the first time that happened.

Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

Why exactly does she get sympathy, and she should, when the woman in this story experienced a similar tragedy receive scorn and condemnation from a bunch of lily privileged shrews in DC metro area.

cold as it may sound, i don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the rich white woman from CT, either, because she, too, made terrible choices and has to live with the horrible, likely preventable, consequences. but to answer your question, that woman didn't leave four (of her five) kids alone in a mobile home.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

Why exactly does she get sympathy, and she should, when the woman in this story experienced a similar tragedy receive scorn and condemnation from a bunch of lily privileged shrews in DC metro area.

You sound like a racist nutcase.

I'm a PP in this thread, and I'm not white, and definitely not 'privileged'. Being a minority doesn't mean that you get a free pass when you leave your 4 young children in a trailer alone. I don't care what your color/class is - that's just negligent.

No, not a racist and definitely not a nutcase. I don't give a flying crap whether you are white or not. If you cannot find any sympathy for a parent who has just lost four children, something is missing in your DNA, regardless of what color or race you check in the box. Nobody said give the woman a free pass, but you don't know all the facts and are ready to crucify the woman. She may or may not be negligent, but was the woman in Connecticut any less negligent for housing her children in a house that was later to be found not secure. Did you find sympathy for her. I did, for she was a parent who had just lost three of her children. I am simply pointing out the inconsistencies of the DCUM mob, and how some people are more worthy than others. Is it a class issue. A race issue. I don't know, but for you perhaps it is a class issue.

While I find all of the focus on this mother's sex life and number of partners to be strange and irrelevant, I really hope we have not come to the point as a society where we can't acknowledge that leaving young children alone by themselves at night is negligent.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

I don't know much about this CT story. Did the mom leave her 3 kids unattended in the house? If so, she doesn't deserve much sympathy. Any mom who has left her kids unattended several times is acting irresponsibly.

No, she just had all the fire alarms disconnected while her family slept in the home. So, in theory, the children were left unprotected in case of a fire. the children perished. The parents perished. The mother is left grief stricken. I would think that the mother in Lousiana is also grief stricken. You people are freaking talking about how many sexual partners this woman has had in her life. For all you know, it has only been three. I really don't care if it has been thirty. Women on DCUM has had that many from freshmen to senior year of college. I guess I defend the mom because regardless of the circumstances, she lost her babies. And that is what is missing from this thread. It is full of self-righteous sanctimonious shrews.

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So poor people are too stupid to know how children are created? I think they are smarter than that, but some people just choose to be irresponsible. All the PP's were saying is that one option to not keep having children is keeping your legs closed. Your argument is, those poor people in Louisiana don't know how to do that? or it's just too much to expect that of them?

That's a horrible and insulting argument.

That does seem to be the argument here. That poor people are just too stupid to make good decisions. She didn't chose to leave her kids unattended. She was just a victim of her circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

Why exactly does she get sympathy, and she should, when the woman in this story experienced a similar tragedy receive scorn and condemnation from a bunch of lily privileged shrews in DC metro area.

You sound like a racist nutcase.

I'm a PP in this thread, and I'm not white, and definitely not 'privileged'. Being a minority doesn't mean that you get a free pass when you leave your 4 young children in a trailer alone. I don't care what your color/class is - that's just negligent.

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Anonymous wrote:Before judging the mom for being away from home, I'd like to know why she was away from home. If she was out partying, we should condemn that. If she was working the graveyard shift on poorly paid job and she couldn't afford childcare, that's another matter.

The fact that the children had several different fathers is irrelevant as to why she was gone that night.

She was gone often. If she can find relatives to watch the oldest one night, why couldn't she find care for the others? Why have so many kids if you can't provide basic care? I'd bet that some of those neighbors would rather help out for babysitting on occasion vs the kids being home alone. IF the mom was working vs partying.

Well I don't know. It is possible her health insurance did not cover birth control. Or, perhaps if she was on TANF, and it did not cover birth control. TANF is controlled by the individual states and Louisiana is not a state that allows free choice for women. Perhaps, the funding for the local agencies such as Planned Parenthood ran out of money. You know there were a lot of cutbacks, and people don't want their money used for birth control. There could be a whole list of reasons why she can't get proper birth control.

I know, I know, your next statement is why can't she stop fracking then. Well maybe because she is not as frigid as half the women on DCUM and she actually enjoys the pleasure of a good FU*K.

Well, then obviously you've never been to college or high school. We all know there are tons of other ways to get your rocks off other than sex. There are lots of women who love sex. Not all of them have 5 kids. Condoms are ridiculously cheap. And way cheaper than having kids.

Hate to disappoint. I have two graduate degrees, and I doubt you have actually been rocked with great sex. Yes, you should continue with your rabbit, or whatever is used to compensate for your lack thereof.

Anonymous wrote:I think that woman who lost her three children in and parents in Connecticut was a bad parent. How dare she not have working fire alarms in the house.

I don't know much about this CT story. Did the mom leave her 3 kids unattended in the house? If so, she doesn't deserve much sympathy. Any mom who has left her kids unattended several times is acting irresponsibly.

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I know, I know, your next statement is why can't she stop fracking then. Well maybe because she is not as frigid as half the women on DCUM and she actually enjoys the pleasure of a good FU*K.

Your arguments are just making you sound more and more crazy. You want to make this woman into a victim so badly, but you don't seem to realize that it's not helping anyone. It certainly didn't help her kids.

Sorry, there's more than one person disagreeing with you. But there are a lot of frigid, sexual pent up women on DCUM.

So, the best you can do when you have no better argument is hurl general insults. It's great that you support this woman, who caused the death of FOUR innocent KIDS.

Hell, she needed a good fuck, so she had the right to have lots of kids. We can't possibly understand her needs - she just had an animalistic desire to fuck and have more kids. Don't you see how patronizing that sounds? This mom was just a victim to her desires that she had no control over.

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Anonymous wrote:Before judging the mom for being away from home, I'd like to know why she was away from home. If she was out partying, we should condemn that. If she was working the graveyard shift on poorly paid job and she couldn't afford childcare, that's another matter.

The fact that the children had several different fathers is irrelevant as to why she was gone that night.

She was gone often. If she can find relatives to watch the oldest one night, why couldn't she find care for the others? Why have so many kids if you can't provide basic care? I'd bet that some of those neighbors would rather help out for babysitting on occasion vs the kids being home alone. IF the mom was working vs partying.

Well I don't know. It is possible her health insurance did not cover birth control. Or, perhaps if she was on TANF, and it did not cover birth control. TANF is controlled by the individual states and Louisiana is not a state that allows free choice for women. Perhaps, the funding for the local agencies such as Planned Parenthood ran out of money. You know there were a lot of cutbacks, and people don't want their money used for birth control. There could be a whole list of reasons why she can't get proper birth control.

I know, I know, your next statement is why can't she stop fracking then. Well maybe because she is not as frigid as half the women on DCUM and she actually enjoys the pleasure of a good FU*K.

I think birth control should be available to all women (and men, for that matter). But this woman is the extreme. While I'm not agreeing with the PP who is probably pro chastity belt, I do think she wasn't using her head, as having that many kids with three different men isn't exactly healthy for anyone involved, especially with the risk of spreading SDTs being so high.

Seriously, if you have time to fuck, you have time to buy a goddamn box of condoms. Or at least say no to the dude unless he shows up with protection.

common sense is lacking . . . And guess who suffered? the children