Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you being facetious? It's probably more like $10 more than general ed per child to transport them to a center and not all center eligible children need a longer bus route. Probably half of them are actually within the center boundaries or attending a LLIV program.

I was being facetious. It seems ridiculous to make a big deal about $30 per year per child. I'm guessing those who object just don't like the program.

At least one of us who objected didn't like the comparison of special-ed needs and AAP "needs."

No Level III or Level II students were included. There are 12000 kids in AAP Level 4. It costs about 360000 for Level IV transportation. 360000/12000 is $30. If you remove LLIV then the denomiator gets smaller, and the cost per student served goes up.

This is basic math.

Anonymous wrote:PP: Actually, the $30/year is the additional expense. To me, it seems trivial. That is less than what I will spend this week on coffee.

I arrived at $30/year by taking the AAP transportation cost, and dividing it by the number of kids in AAP. Some AAP kids cost nothing extra, LLIV, or where the center is alos the base school. So, those that need extra busing probably costs the county about 60-80/kid. Which is still penuts in the grand scheme of things.

So you it is not the cost per child to send a child to an out of boundary Center school. You have made it seem much cheaper by including LLIV, LII and LIII AAP students.

Anonymous wrote:Are you being facetious? It's probably more like $10 more than general ed per child to transport them to a center and not all center eligible children need a longer bus route. Probably half of them are actually within the center boundaries or attending a LLIV program.

I was being facetious. It seems ridiculous to make a big deal about $30 per year per child. I'm guessing those who object just don't like the program.

PP: Actually, the $30/year is the additional expense. To me, it seems trivial. That is less than what I will spend this week on coffee.

I arrived at $30/year by taking the AAP transportation cost, and dividing it by the number of kids in AAP. Some AAP kids cost nothing extra, LLIV, or where the center is alos the base school. So, those that need extra busing probably costs the county about 60-80/kid. Which is still penuts in the grand scheme of things.

Are you being facetious? It's probably more like $10 more than general ed per child to transport them to a center and not all center eligible children need a longer bus route. Probably half of them are actually within the center boundaries or attending a LLIV program.

Anonymous wrote:Special ed kids need special ed. I'm sorry, but you can't convince me that all students accepted into AAP NEED the center. Maybe one percent, tops. Apples and oranges here.

I agree! That $30 extra for a child per YEAR of AAP transportation is outrageous! How can any of us sit around and allow this atrocity to continue. Maybe we should just put centers in every school and avoid this exorbitant transportation cost.

Anonymous wrote:Special ed kids need special ed. I'm sorry, but you can't convince me that all students accepted into AAP NEED the center. Maybe one percent, tops. Apples and oranges here.

Amen to that. One percent, not the close to 50% which it currently is at our school (AAP/GE).

Special ed kids need special ed. I'm sorry, but you can't convince me that all students accepted into AAP NEED the center. Maybe one percent, tops. Apples and oranges here.

Special ed transportation costs are enormous. Children who need to go outside their local school to special programs are very expensive to transport. For instance, I know a child who is picked up at his door and driven in a bus with an attendant all the way to a program about 45 minutes away. The bus doesn't pick up any other children along the way. That one child alone costs thousands and thousands to transport to school--and there are many hundreds of similar children in FCPS. The special ed preschool buses also usually only have a handful of children per route. Those costs are enormous (and I'm not saying they should not be incurred)-compared to the AAP costs.

Anonymous wrote:oh, please, that's ridiculous and petty. If the child stayed at his base school, the transportation costs would be similar if he was in a bus zone. Transportation costs for special ed students per student are thousands more.

??? The special ed students in my neighborhood take the same bus as everyone else. How is that more expensive? Yes, there are a few at the HS that have extra transportation needs, but you shouldn't lump all special ed students into the same pool. I wonder how much TJ costs per student compared to most special ed students?

PP: because center schools are usually further than base schools, there is an extra cost, but it is small.

oh, please, that's ridiculous and petty. If the child stayed at his base school, the transportation costs would be similar if he was in a bus zone. Transportation costs for special ed students per student are thousands more.

Anonymous wrote:transportation for AAP costs about 350-400K district wide, or about $30 per kid per year.

Anyone who parent-refers their kid and pays for a WISC to get in should be responsible for their own transportation costs to the Center.

transportation for AAP costs about 350-400K district wide, or about $30 per kid per year.