Anonymous wrote:This thread so far has been really respectful and informative. I hope that the last few posters will not ruin an otherwise thoughtful and helpful discussion.

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I have had an unbelievable amount of bladder infections with my husband. I only had 2 before him in about 20 years of being sexually active, and they were from not peeing post-sex. I always pee post sex with my husband but at least twice a year I have a UTI.

The hygiene factor is gross. You can't stay on top of this, no matter how much you try. There's alwasy going to be, um, sludge in there, even an hour post-shower. I'm basically off oral. And I love it. But I just can't do it anymore.

I do not think your occurence of bladder infections is related to whether or not your dh is circ or not
Get another doctor
And tell your man he does not know how to clean himself. What you are describing is not related to circ at all

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I have had an unbelievable amount of bladder infections with my husband. I only had 2 before him in about 20 years of being sexually active, and they were from not peeing post-sex. I always pee post sex with my husband but at least twice a year I have a UTI.

The hygiene factor is gross. You can't stay on top of this, no matter how much you try. There's alwasy going to be, um, sludge in there, even an hour post-shower. I'm basically off oral. And I love it. But I just can't do it anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe "sludge" isn't the right word, I would liken it to discharge of the male variety. I guess some men have fluid (pre-cum) that comes out at times during the day. He has that, and unless it's right-from-the-shower, it never smells/tastes fresh.

Sorry for TMI, but that's how I know that I will fight tooth and nail for a son of mine to have one. That and the ridiculous amount of bladder infections I've gotten.

You do realize that the urethra and the vagina are entirely separate holes? More often than not, UTI's are caused by e coli and that is from another hole. It may not be your husband that has the hygiene problem, just saying.

Yes, because well, let's see, I'm not an idiot. So yes, I realize they are 2 separate holes, but they are right next to each other. And so how would your fantastic logic on my hygiene explain how I never got them before and now get them regularly. Did I suddenly stop wiping after I crap?

Probably an idiot AND a pot-stirrer. I just have a difficult time even believing your statement. It is not normal for "discharge" to constantly be collected under the foreskin.

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Sorry, apparently, I meant phimosis.


In general, I think the costs and benefits of circumcision are small enough that there is room for people to make very different, but thoughtful decisions.

After all, most men in the US born between 1950 and 1980 are circumsized, and I've never had a single one say to me "Oh, sex, you kno I can take or leave it. I can barely feel it."

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Anonymous wrote:I think there's lots of room for reasonable people to disagree on this issue. I was swayed by the reduced incidence of penile cancer and STD's, but as many have pointed out, an educated person in a first world country doesn't generally rely on a circumcision as protection against STD's, and Gardasil will probably be a preventative against penile cancer.

I've also had doctors tell me that circumsized boys have a reduced incidence of UTI's.


Interestingly, I thought that the best way to research this would be to find a study of men who had circumcisions done as adults. There is such a study, but these men were mostly doing the procedure to treat condyloma, a congenital conidiotn in which the foreskin is shortened and causes pain. These test subjects were therefore so relieved to be getting a circumcision, that their opinions on life before and after didn't seem quite relevant to the average guy.

Last time I looked, a condyloma was a genital wart.........

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe "sludge" isn't the right word, I would liken it to discharge of the male variety. I guess some men have fluid (pre-cum) that comes out at times during the day. He has that, and unless it's right-from-the-shower, it never smells/tastes fresh.

Sorry for TMI, but that's how I know that I will fight tooth and nail for a son of mine to have one. That and the ridiculous amount of bladder infections I've gotten.

You do realize that the urethra and the vagina are entirely separate holes? More often than not, UTI's are caused by e coli and that is from another hole. It may not be your husband that has the hygiene problem, just saying.

Yes, because well, let's see, I'm not an idiot. So yes, I realize they are 2 separate holes, but they are right next to each other. And so how would your fantastic logic on my hygiene explain how I never got them before and now get them regularly. Did I suddenly stop wiping after I crap?