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Anonymous wrote:NP here- 12:47 you are coming off as extremely judgmental. Are you the same person from the Amanda Knox thread who thinks smoking pot makes you a murderer? and now drinking makes you a bad parent/baby killer?

I am sad for the family, not sure what the story is but I wouldn't assume a glass of wine made this women kill her child.

I'm not in that thread but I was just responding to a person who seemed to be making excuses to drinking while in charge of little ones.

It's never OK, being it one bottle or one sip.

Once one decides to be a parent they should be mature enough to know better. Alcohol definitely has its place and it doesn't belong with watching little children.

NP here. . .OMG you are so uptight! I drink in front of my kids all the time. We have wine with dinner almost nightly. It doesn't mean I get drunk and it certainly does not mean I am incapable of caring for my DCs. I manage to do the dishes (without breaking anything), give DC a shower, tuck her in, read a story and sing a song in a normal, non-drunk manner after I have my glass or two of wine. Maybe you're a lightweight and get drunk easily hence the It's never OK, being it one bottle or one sip.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, but just so you know, using your caps locks all the time makes you seem crazy.

It's my finger holding the shift key down, I never use caps lock. But thanks for the concern.

I often give the same advice to others, so sweet you are.

Then you really are crazy, because typing a whole sentance while holding down the shift key takes a lot of effort. The caps lock key was created with that purpose in mind.

You're welcome.

Yes, you caught me. I am indeed crazy. And you are equally nutso for engaging me in back & forth banter.

Hello Pot, Meet Kettle.

Anonymous wrote:http://video.foxnews.com/v/1222389971001/baby-lisas-parents-change-their-story/?playlist_id=87485

This was the one and only night the dad worked an overnight shift. REPEAT - he does not work over nights.

She now claims she last saw Lisa at 6pm not 10pm - FOUR HOURS EARLIER - she didn't check on her at 10pm - she's changing her story. SHE DOESNT REMEMBER.

She was also taking prescription drugs for anxiety meds.

Mom BLACKED OUT. She doesn't remember what happened. But it has NOTHING to do with her daughter.

She has not memory of checking on the baby.

She had several glasses of wine, MORE THAN 5 glasses of wine, less than TEN.

SHE WAS DRUNK. SHE SAYS SHE DOES NOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM.

SHE DRINKS A FEW TIMES A WEEK.

I don't think it was every established that he hasn't worked overnights before. He is a trades person and this was his first time doing an overnight on this job. He had (I think) only recently started this job. Tradespeople can work dozens of jobs in a year, some only last days, others weeks, others months. So he could actually have done an overnight even the week before - just at a different job. I haven't seen anywhere that he has never worked an overnight before, just not an overnight on this job.

could have been a crime of opportunity involving the neighbor, who knew the dad was at work and mom was drunk.

Interesting about the old case in CA. It must have happened when I was young.

For some reason, I'm thinking about Gary Condit. The whole "where there's smoke" effect. He didn't kill Chandra, but because he was having an affair with her...

It will be interesting to see when the truth comes out. It really would suck if their names were dragged through the mud and they really DIDN'T do it.

Hey, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he picked up a rare overnight shift on a remodel.

But if he doesn't normally work nights, it's awfully weird the baby went missing on one of the very rare occasions when he DID work a night shift, isn't it? And on the same night, the mom was, in her own estimation, close enough to black out drunk that she seemingly can't remember shit about what she did that night.

The mom has something to do with it. This is a no brainer to me. I could be wrong; I'll drink her box of Franzia wine if I am. But there's too much pointing to her for me to accept some stranger just stumbled upon the house and snatched the baby.

It's a possibility the mom has a drinking/partying problem and a family member or acquaintance who wanted a baby decided to take the baby to "raise it better." You know those crazy types. In which case at least there wouldn't be reason to think the baby was dead or anything less than being properly cared for.

Mom will crack. It'll come out.

I read that the husband does not usually work overnights but this was a starbucks remodel. I know the Sb does overnight remodels - because the one down the street here in VA just did this over the weekend. Open for coffee in the morning, remodel at night. And obviously they don't remodel every weekend. It's a once in a blue moon thing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, but just so you know, using your caps locks all the time makes you seem crazy.

It's my finger holding the shift key down, I never use caps lock. But thanks for the concern.

I often give the same advice to others, so sweet you are.

Then you really are crazy, because typing a whole sentance while holding down the shift key takes a lot of effort. The caps lock key was created with that purpose in mind.

You're welcome.

Anonymous wrote:Okay, but just so you know, using your caps locks all the time makes you seem crazy.

It's my finger holding the shift key down, I never use caps lock. But thanks for the concern.

I often give the same advice to others, so sweet you are.

Okay, but just so you know, using your caps locks all the time makes you seem crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:http://video.foxnews.com/v/1222389971001/baby-lisas-parents-change-their-story/?playlist_id=87485

This was the one and only night the dad worked an overnight shift. REPEAT - he does not work over nights.

She now claims she last saw Lisa at 6pm not 10pm - FOUR HOURS EARLIER - she didn't check on her at 10pm - she's changing her story. SHE DOESNT REMEMBER.

She was also taking prescription drugs for anxiety meds.

Mom BLACKED OUT. She doesn't remember what happened. But it has NOTHING to do with her daughter.

She has not memory of checking on the baby.

She had several glasses of wine, MORE THAN 5 glasses of wine, less than TEN.

SHE WAS DRUNK. SHE SAYS SHE DOES NOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM.

SHE DRINKS A FEW TIMES A WEEK.

Calm down lady.

Oh, I'm calm, but thanks for the tip, LADY. Some people on this board have reading comprehension issues. I was highlighting the finer points of the video interview.

^ I should have said, calm down Nancy.

Anonymous wrote:http://video.foxnews.com/v/1222389971001/baby-lisas-parents-change-their-story/?playlist_id=87485

This was the one and only night the dad worked an overnight shift. REPEAT - he does not work over nights.

She now claims she last saw Lisa at 6pm not 10pm - FOUR HOURS EARLIER - she didn't check on her at 10pm - she's changing her story. SHE DOESNT REMEMBER.

She was also taking prescription drugs for anxiety meds.

Mom BLACKED OUT. She doesn't remember what happened. But it has NOTHING to do with her daughter.

She has not memory of checking on the baby.

She had several glasses of wine, MORE THAN 5 glasses of wine, less than TEN.

SHE WAS DRUNK. SHE SAYS SHE DOES NOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM.

SHE DRINKS A FEW TIMES A WEEK.

Calm down lady.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1222389971001/baby-lisas-parents-change-their-story/?playlist_id=87485

This was the one and only night the dad worked an overnight shift. REPEAT - he does not work over nights.

She now claims she last saw Lisa at 6pm not 10pm - FOUR HOURS EARLIER - she didn't check on her at 10pm - she's changing her story. SHE DOESNT REMEMBER.

She was also taking prescription drugs for anxiety meds.

Mom BLACKED OUT. She doesn't remember what happened. But it has NOTHING to do with her daughter.

She has not memory of checking on the baby.

She had several glasses of wine, MORE THAN 5 glasses of wine, less than TEN.

SHE WAS DRUNK. SHE SAYS SHE DOES NOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM.

SHE DRINKS A FEW TIMES A WEEK.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom admitted today that she drank the better part of a box of wine that night. "At least 5 glasses probably." So the night you get so drunk you might not hear someone entering your home is THE VERY NIGHT A STRANGER ENTERED YOUR HOME AND STOLE YOUR BABY? And this was also coincidentally the same night your husband was working a night shift? YOU DON'T SAY!

The mom has something to do with it. It will out.

that might be true if she rarely got drunk, but what if she got drunk several times a week? It's not so coincidental that on a night she's drunk, something happened to her baby. Does anyone know if the husband works night shifts often? maybe that's her M-O - when hubby works nights, I get bombed on the front porch with neighbor. Could be happening a lot.

Could be. It's just asking a lot for people to believe that one of the rarest types of child abduction (by a stranger, from the home) occurred when she was so drunk on boxed wine she can't remember even going inside that night or whether she turned off lights or left doors open. I don't know what exactly her involvement was, but there's something not adding up about this story and this family.

You could be right about her drinking with the neighbor a lot, though. The article I read mentioned that she said she put the baby down at 6:40 that evening and only checked on her once. 6:40 is pretty early for a child to be going to bed for the night. The one time she was checked on the mother said she was standing in her crib, i.e., not sleeping. Sounds like the mom might have been in the habit of putting the baby in the bed for the night early in the evening so she could drink while the dad was at work.

Fox News is reporting that the mom was drinking with a neighbor and that the dad never works night so it is questionable whether or not he was actually working. He never works overnight. I would think the police checked his alibi but who knows. This is Fox News we are talking about.