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Anonymous wrote:The recent flood of Northeast and Midwestern kids going to SEC schools has to be hurting Syracuse. Much better weather, sports, and 50-60% of the cost.

I am sure that they do lose some kids South but the idea of a flood is a myth. The numbers don’t back up the story.

The facts contradict this.

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Anonymous wrote:We will see majority of small (SLACs) private colleges closing in the next five years.

Are you high?

Kids don't want to waste miney on the small liberal arts colleges.

They either want the prestigious top 10-20 schools, or they want the big, fun, traditional college experience with the SEC and big 10 sports and the insta worthy greek party scene.

Schools like Notre Dame and Michigan that hit both of those categories will come out at the very top.

Those single digit acceptance rates tell a different story. Sorry, math isn’t your strong suit.

The small liberal arts colleges do not have single digit acceptance rates.

Many of them are shrinking classes and cutting programs because they don't have enough students to fill their incoming classes. Fewer kids want to attend that type of school if its not top 10-20

Anonymous wrote:Good chance Syracuse is eaten up by the SUNY system. SUNY doesn't really have great flagships, and Syracuse could be it for CNY. They have Morristown, Potsdam, and Binghamton, which are pretty blah. How would this work? Syracuse would probably get to keep its endowment like UVA, and the admin systems would merge into SUNY, which *in theory* could save a lot of money, sort of like a corporate merger. I think U of R is also on that list.

I do not see U of Rochester merging into SUNY. Whatever makes you say that?

That list only exists in their head.

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Anonymous wrote:Syracuse University's competition are the SUNY's, UConn, UMass, Rutgers, etc. Why anyone would choose to pay $95,000 a year to there over these other schools is a mystery? Maybe if wanted sports broadcasting or something similar for Newhouse?

Syracuse is ranked <<< compared to Rutgers though the college experience may be better because Rutgers campus sucks.

Sorry but Rutgers isn't remotely as good as Syracuse. Keep dreaming.

Rutgers ranked 42
Syracuse ranked 75

Public school....UC Merced class. Enough said

If outcome of UC Merced grads is good (social mobility) then it makes sense. Also, it's much cheaper than Syracuse, with better weather.

So UC Merced is on par with Syracuse now?

On Par with Rutgers. For your typical public school just add about 60 to the USNWR ranking and you’ll have it about right.

Anonymous wrote:The recent flood of Northeast and Midwestern kids going to SEC schools has to be hurting Syracuse. Much better weather, sports, and 50-60% of the cost.

I am sure that they do lose some kids South but the idea of a flood is a myth. The numbers don’t back up the story.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the beginning of the demographic cliff.

There is no cliff, but rather a slow glide to a plateau that is about 12-14% below the current population over the next 15 years. Contrary to popular belief the northeast is not affected any worse than the Western and Middle states. The South is projected to stay flat though migration trends are starting to move against them which may mitigate some of the hit to other areas if it continues.

The northeast is losing population to the south and midwest.

It’s starting to reverse, especially to FL. I have no idea how it will play out in the long run.

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Anonymous wrote:We will see majority of small (SLACs) private colleges closing in the next five years.

Are you high?

Kids don't want to waste miney on the small liberal arts colleges.

They either want the prestigious top 10-20 schools, or they want the big, fun, traditional college experience with the SEC and big 10 sports and the insta worthy greek party scene.

Schools like Notre Dame and Michigan that hit both of those categories will come out at the very top.

Those single digit acceptance rates tell a different story. Sorry, math isn’t your strong suit.

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Anonymous wrote:Syracuse University's competition are the SUNY's, UConn, UMass, Rutgers, etc. Why anyone would choose to pay $95,000 a year to there over these other schools is a mystery? Maybe if wanted sports broadcasting or something similar for Newhouse?

Syracuse is ranked <<< compared to Rutgers though the college experience may be better because Rutgers campus sucks.

Sorry but Rutgers isn't remotely as good as Syracuse. Keep dreaming.

Plus 1 from a proud SU graduate

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Anonymous wrote:Not all colleges are being impacted. Some like Tulane, Syracuse, UVM are being hurt. Colleges like Florida, Georgia, SMU, are getting more and more applications. The Boston colleges are doing great and all getting record application. NYU isn't having trouble.

The ones struggling have some pointed deficiency. Syracuse's location doesn't help it, just like Tulane's after Katrina. UVM and Syracuse both suffer from the same isolated hinterland stigma.

UVM has a great location.

No one young wants to live in vermont.

It's a state for old boomer hippies

The only young people I know who go to school there are academically middling white kids from NYC.
The only adults I have met from there are flowing white haired hippies who follow Grateful Dead tribute bands who always seem to sport a bandana wrapped around their heads.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this will finally be the end of the massively bloated university administrations. I think few parents appreciate how the hiring of non-teaching faculty has exploded since we were in college. This is what has contributed to the massive increases in tuition. Enough is enough.

Above is at least part of the problem. And it is a systemic problem affecting most colleges and universities.

Of course every school needs a Dean of Student Success, and another Dean for Community & Culture, then a Dean for Advising & Support in addition to Dean of Studies.
Then there's the Provost VP for Community Outreach, another for Global Engagement and don't forget the Provost for Institutional Effectiveness.

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Anonymous wrote:The recent flood of Northeast and Midwestern kids going to SEC schools has to be hurting Syracuse. Much better weather, sports, and 50-60% of the cost.

There’s not really evidence that there’s a flood

A quick google search:

https://toptieradmissions.com/the-rising-popularity-of-southern-colleges/

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/education-college/a68021804/southern-colleges-popularity-explained-2025/

https://www.universityherald.com/articles/79976/20251124/southern-universities-see-91-surge-northeast-students-fleeing-cold-football-greek-life.htm


Wherher you like it or not, teens and young adults' natural instinct is to have fun, enjoy life, try new things and not to be rigid, judgy, or puritanical.

The northeast colleges and small liberal arts colleges have overwhelmingly presented themselves as being no fun, filled with screaming protestors and virulent thought police where the crazy students who like to judge and censor people are everywhere, ruled by the stereotypical blue haired girl running around in a mask 5 years after covid craziness ended.

The southern and midwestern schools don't seem to have that puritanical culture, appear more welcoming to all kinds of people, and just look like a ton of fun, the way college is supposed to be and the kind of college we all went to pre 2019.

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Anonymous wrote:Not all colleges are being impacted. Some like Tulane, Syracuse, UVM are being hurt. Colleges like Florida, Georgia, SMU, are getting more and more applications. The Boston colleges are doing great and all getting record application. NYU isn't having trouble.

The ones struggling have some pointed deficiency. Syracuse's location doesn't help it, just like Tulane's after Katrina. UVM and Syracuse both suffer from the same isolated hinterland stigma.

UVM has a great location.

No one young wants to live in vermont.

It's a state for old boomer hippies

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Anonymous wrote:This is the beginning of the demographic cliff.

There is no cliff, but rather a slow glide to a plateau that is about 12-14% below the current population over the next 15 years. Contrary to popular belief the northeast is not affected any worse than the Western and Middle states. The South is projected to stay flat though migration trends are starting to move against them which may mitigate some of the hit to other areas if it continues.

The northeast is losing population to the south and midwest.

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Anonymous wrote:We will see majority of small (SLACs) private colleges closing in the next five years.

Are you high?

Kids don't want to waste miney on the small liberal arts colleges.

They either want the prestigious top 10-20 schools, or they want the big, fun, traditional college experience with the SEC and big 10 sports and the insta worthy greek party scene.

Schools like Notre Dame and Michigan that hit both of those categories will come out at the very top.

Anonymous wrote:The decline will accelerate due to expected dropping birth rate and erosion of knowledge jobs to AI.

Too early to say how many will close over the next 1 years but it will be plenty. Syracuse will survive but it will have to reduce size and programs. Big expansion plans will get shelved. This will happen across all schools outside HPYSM.

The fun state SEC type universities will outpace the top schools for sure.