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Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.

Are you ok? You need to check yourself.

1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.

2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.

You made a claim. You can defend it or not, but don't be upset when people ask you to defend your claim. I haven't gotten any indication from what I have read about Lazo that he is exclusively focused on the Latino community. You're claim that because he has advocated for Latinos he doesn't care about other groups is personally offensive to me.

I did not say "he doesn't care about other groups." I said I've not seen that he has publicly advocated for the concerns of MCPS stakeholder groups other than Hispanic/Latino families. And that is accurate.

So as you're on DCUM trying to play trial lawyer and saying people have to "defend" their claims, you need to hold yourself to the same standard, Judge Judy.

His website says, "Omar believes every child—regardless of ZIP code, race, language, or family income—deserves access to excellent schools, safe learning environments, and strong pathways to college and careers."

There he is, advocating for all kids.

If you think a statement alone equates to advocacy for other groups, than you and I have different definitions of what advocacy looks like. And that's ok.

At best, the statement signals an intent do that. What has yet to be produced are examples of actions he has taken to advocate for MCPS families other than Hispanic/Latino families from him.

You can use whatever criteria you want as you decide whether you support Omar. And clearly, based on your breathless and aggressive defense of him in this thread, you've chosen to support him.

However, other people are still deciding and evaluating whether he's worthy of their vote. And that's ok too.

I have seen no public reporting on any advocacy that Lazo has done that was focused on the Latino community. But if he did do that, that would be completely fine with me and not disqualifying, and it's bizarre to me that a history of advocacy for Latinos would be disqualifying for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.

Are you ok? You need to check yourself.

1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.

2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.

You made a claim. You can defend it or not, but don't be upset when people ask you to defend your claim. I haven't gotten any indication from what I have read about Lazo that he is exclusively focused on the Latino community. You're claim that because he has advocated for Latinos he doesn't care about other groups is personally offensive to me.

I did not say "he doesn't care about other groups." I said I've not seen that he has publicly advocated for the concerns of MCPS stakeholder groups other than Hispanic/Latino families. And that is accurate.

So as you're on DCUM trying to play trial lawyer and saying people have to "defend" their claims, you need to hold yourself to the same standard, Judge Judy.

His website says, "Omar believes every child—regardless of ZIP code, race, language, or family income—deserves access to excellent schools, safe learning environments, and strong pathways to college and careers."

There he is, advocating for all kids.

If you think a statement alone equates to advocacy for other groups, than you and I have different definitions of what advocacy looks like. And that's ok.

At best, the statement signals an intent do that. What has yet to be produced are examples of actions he has taken to advocate for MCPS families other than Hispanic/Latino families from him.

You can use whatever criteria you want as you decide whether you support Omar. And clearly, based on your breathless and aggressive defense of him in this thread, you've chosen to support him.

However, other people are still deciding and evaluating whether he's worthy of their vote. And that's ok too.

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Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.

Are you ok? You need to check yourself.

1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.

2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.

You made a claim. You can defend it or not, but don't be upset when people ask you to defend your claim. I haven't gotten any indication from what I have read about Lazo that he is exclusively focused on the Latino community. You're claim that because he has advocated for Latinos he doesn't care about other groups is personally offensive to me.

I did not say "he doesn't care about other groups." I said I've not seen that he has publicly advocated for the concerns of MCPS stakeholder groups other than Hispanic/Latino families. And that is accurate.

So as you're on DCUM trying to play trial lawyer and saying people have to "defend" their claims, you need to hold yourself to the same standard, Judge Judy.

His website says, "Omar believes every child—regardless of ZIP code, race, language, or family income—deserves access to excellent schools, safe learning environments, and strong pathways to college and careers."

There he is, advocating for all kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.

Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...

Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.

MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.

Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.

If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.

That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.

Everything you said is on point but what I bolded from what you said is especially true and why schools like Kennedy, Watkins Mill, Gaithersburg, Springbrook, etc struggle and suffer.

This is where his family is. He is not at a wealthy school.

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Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.

Are you ok? You need to check yourself.

1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.

2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.

You made a claim. You can defend it or not, but don't be upset when people ask you to defend your claim. I haven't gotten any indication from what I have read about Lazo that he is exclusively focused on the Latino community. You're claim that because he has advocated for Latinos he doesn't care about other groups is personally offensive to me.

I did not say "he doesn't care about other groups." I said I've not seen that he has publicly advocated for the concerns of MCPS stakeholder groups other than Hispanic/Latino families. And that is accurate.

So as you're on DCUM trying to play trial lawyer and saying people have to "defend" their claims, you need to hold yourself to the same standard, Judge Judy.

His website says, "Omar believes every child—regardless of ZIP code, race, language, or family income—deserves access to excellent schools, safe learning environments, and strong pathways to college and careers."

There he is, advocating for all kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.

Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...

Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.

MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.

Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.

If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.

That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.

Everything you said is on point but what I bolded from what you said is especially true and why schools like Kennedy, Watkins Mill, Gaithersburg, Springbrook, etc struggle and suffer.

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Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.

Are you ok? You need to check yourself.

1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.

2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.

You made a claim. You can defend it or not, but don't be upset when people ask you to defend your claim. I haven't gotten any indication from what I have read about Lazo that he is exclusively focused on the Latino community. You're claim that because he has advocated for Latinos he doesn't care about other groups is personally offensive to me.

I did not say "he doesn't care about other groups." I said I've not seen that he has publicly advocated for the concerns of MCPS stakeholder groups other than Hispanic/Latino families. And that is accurate.

So as you're on DCUM trying to play trial lawyer and saying people have to "defend" their claims, you need to hold yourself to the same standard, Judge Judy.

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Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.

Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...

Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.

MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.

Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.

If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.

That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.

I feel like I have urged you before to take a writing class. Please consider it. Your writing is literally painful to read.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.

Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...

Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.

MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.

Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.

If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.

That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

That’s your take. No, I’m saying those of us at these schools need better representation.

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Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.

Are you ok? You need to check yourself.

1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.

2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.

You made a claim. You can defend it or not, but don't be upset when people ask you to defend your claim. I haven't gotten any indication from what I have read about Lazo that he is exclusively focused on the Latino community. You're claim that because he has advocated for Latinos he doesn't care about other groups is personally offensive to me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.

Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...

Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.

MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.

Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.

If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.

That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.

I feel like I have urged you before to take a writing class. Please consider it. Your writing is literally painful to read.

Put down the cell phone. Breathe.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.

If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.

Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?

DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.

Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...

Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.

MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.

Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.

If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.

That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.

I feel like I have urged you before to take a writing class. Please consider it. Your writing is literally painful to read.