Ok, as a mom of twins, I'll share that the twin preference of old is pretty much dead. I have a pair that applied ED this year. They took the boy who had lower grades and passed on the girl.

(Not saying there should be a preference--let's not turn this into a post for/against that)

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Anonymous wrote:For the love of God, the first child is not a disappointment. I know a younger sibling this happened to at an Ivy and the first child literally won a departmental award during the year prior to the second one applying. Like
"best math student at the university" given by the math dept faculty. Younger kid had a 4.0/1550. Denied.

Sometimes it's just random and it sucks.

<---I'm a different poster and this comment was directed at the jerk who said the first child must be a disappointment for the university to not admit the second

So how else would you explain it? Be precise.

Maybe read the actual response about the firstborn’s success. These things make zero sense a lot of the time and that is what frustrates people. The negative trolls try to assume there is something negative. There isn’t. Great kids get rejected all of the time.

And zero chance these trolls attended or have a kid at any of these schools. They are bitter and it’s their way of pretending they have power.

I'm not a troll and one of my kids is at a H/Y/P. The other is not. Presumably, op is talking about a lower Ivy since ED was available and there is a reasonable prospect of transferring. Maybe Cornell or Columbia.

I don’t believe you based on a couple of things you said. Have a good day!

Well, that's insane but it's starting to seem that may be the underlying issue here with this crazy talk of a sibling "twin" preference.

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Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

OP we had something similar happen...except older kid is the one with the higher stats. Older kid got in and graduated. Younger kid had similar stats, but not quite as strong. Very different admission cycle (7 years apart), so have to consider that. Admission rate was 17% when DS got in, 9% when DD was rejected. It hurt, but we still love the school because DS had such a good experience there.

Admission rate is the same - 2 years apart. Older one is a rising junior. We were told if a sibling is currently enrolled they often treat it like a twin when their stats are the same.

5.5% both years, if not slightly easier this cycle

Complaining about not getting in at a school that rejects 95% is crazy.

Move on. They got the same response as almost every other kid.

The harsh reality is that it's all random. DCUM likes to think of admissions as a highly precise, gameable process but it's anything but. The reality is that the apps are read for 5 minutes by fallible readers who are often 23 years old. Maybe when reading OP's kid's app the reader scrutinized it backwards and forwards in the the context of it being a sibling, OR maybe they passed on in in 3 minutes because they had already admitted 10 boys that day from OP's city or state. Maybe it came down to major or maybe the reader was late to an appointment or was grumpy due to being up all night with a baby or was just DONE and tossed the app in the "no pile" to be finished for the week. Who the heck knows. as my teenager says "bruh, it's not that deep."

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Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

Bad essays.

Nah. In at multiple T-10/20s. Essays noted as very strong in a few acceptances. Kid is a really good writer.

It’s like pps said: a lot of the time there is zero reason.

If your kid is in "at multiple T-10s," who even cares? It sounds like older kid isn't at H/Y/P/S/M because none of these schools have ED. No other school is worth this type of fixation if your kid has many other top acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:For the love of God, the first child is not a disappointment. I know a younger sibling this happened to at an Ivy and the first child literally won a departmental award during the year prior to the second one applying. Like
"best math student at the university" given by the math dept faculty. Younger kid had a 4.0/1550. Denied.

Sometimes it's just random and it sucks.

<---I'm a different poster and this comment was directed at the jerk who said the first child must be a disappointment for the university to not admit the second

So how else would you explain it? Be precise.

Maybe read the actual response about the firstborn’s success. These things make zero sense a lot of the time and that is what frustrates people. The negative trolls try to assume there is something negative. There isn’t. Great kids get rejected all of the time.

And zero chance these trolls attended or have a kid at any of these schools. They are bitter and it’s their way of pretending they have power.

I'm not a troll and one of my kids is at a H/Y/P. The other is not. Presumably, op is talking about a lower Ivy since ED was available and there is a reasonable prospect of transferring. Maybe Cornell or Columbia.

I don’t believe you based on a couple of things you said. Have a good day!

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Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

Why would you think the sibling deserved to get in just b/c the older sibling was there?

Because current siblings and ED used to be an almost certain admit if they were equally qualified (but not if sib had already graduated). They used to be treated like “twins” in admissions. Older sib has so many friends with a sib there.

In which case they didn't see the younger sib as "equally qualified." But I have never heard of this "twin" treatment and I'm very familiar with selective admissions. Sounds more like a rumor than an actual policy.

You don’t know the contents of other people’s applications, you you can’t judge how worthy other kids are.

Stop this immaturity. Cope.

I swear the childish posts are making me think these are kids out of school and bored.

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Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

Bad essays.

Nah. In at multiple T-10/20s. Essays noted as very strong in a few acceptances. Kid is a really good writer.

It’s like pps said: a lot of the time there is zero reason.

My kid got off waitlist for school I suspect you’re speaking about a few years ago. They are making a name for themselves on campus. There was not a deficiency, just a lack of space. Ignore everyone saying otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:For the love of God, the first child is not a disappointment. I know a younger sibling this happened to at an Ivy and the first child literally won a departmental award during the year prior to the second one applying. Like
"best math student at the university" given by the math dept faculty. Younger kid had a 4.0/1550. Denied.

Sometimes it's just random and it sucks.

<---I'm a different poster and this comment was directed at the jerk who said the first child must be a disappointment for the university to not admit the second

So how else would you explain it? Be precise.

Maybe read the actual response about the firstborn’s success. These things make zero sense a lot of the time and that is what frustrates people. The negative trolls try to assume there is something negative. There isn’t. Great kids get rejected all of the time.

And zero chance these trolls attended or have a kid at any of these schools. They are bitter and it’s their way of pretending they have power.

I'm not a troll and one of my kids is at a H/Y/P. The other is not. Presumably, op is talking about a lower Ivy since ED was available and there is a reasonable prospect of transferring. Maybe Cornell or Columbia.

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Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

Why would you think the sibling deserved to get in just b/c the older sibling was there?

Because current siblings and ED used to be an almost certain admit if they were equally qualified (but not if sib had already graduated). They used to be treated like “twins” in admissions. Older sib has so many friends with a sib there.

Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

Bad essays.

Anonymous wrote:…where you have a current student and then there sibling with uw 4.0, 36 ACT and similar great ecs/recs/activities gets rejected. Having a hard time after seeing a kid with much lower stats get off WL and in. The holistic B’s is not an answer. Older sibling is also thriving and top of class- so it’s not that either.

It leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.

Why would you think the sibling deserved to get in just b/c the older sibling was there?

These are lottery schools for most applicants. One of your kids won and one did not. That’s all.