Anonymous wrote:About half of all 1560+ SAT scorers in the entire world attend an Ivy+ or similar college

Fewer than 10% of all 1400-1470 SAT scores in the entire world attend an Ivy+ or similar college.

Just do the math and look at the data.

How many 1560+ scorers there are in the world.

How many 1400-1470 scorers there are in the world.

The 25%-50%-75% of SAT scores at the college and the number in each band.

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Anonymous wrote:Really curious what the “lackluster ECs” are for the maybe-amazing kid of PP.

Is there *any* leniency on ECs for unhooked at t20? Sounds like no, no matter how high the stats/rigor.

to get into T20, you need like national award type ECs, or start an organization (a real one), done published researched, student body president, or something else spectacular.

Normal ECs like debate, mock trial, robotics club .. these aren't going to cut it, even with high stats.

This is just not true. My dc was admitted to multiple ivies this year and has none of the first group. He did do a LOT of the second type and put a ton of energy into them.

DP with the same experience. DC has several unhooked friends headed to Ivies and other T20s from public high schools with scores in this range and this same “BMOC” EC profile. At least one STEM major, too. Maybe it takes crazy ECs from a few hyper-competitive high schools in the DMV but not for most people from most places. And we are in the DMV too, just not in a school zone where people move “for the excellent schools.”

This is key. Remember, the applicant is competing with those from the same area/school.

We joke we should've moved to Podunk, Nowhere so that DC could've gotten into a T10. But, DC said they liked that they were challenged in HS. They would've been incredible bored at a non magnet, and possibly, have lost interest in academics.

As you stated, if your DC was a BMOC profile then that makes them stand out.

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Anonymous wrote:Really curious what the “lackluster ECs” are for the maybe-amazing kid of PP.

Is there *any* leniency on ECs for unhooked at t20? Sounds like no, no matter how high the stats/rigor.

to get into T20, you need like national award type ECs, or start an organization (a real one), done published researched, student body president, or something else spectacular.

Normal ECs like debate, mock trial, robotics club .. these aren't going to cut it, even with high stats.

This is just not true. My dc was admitted to multiple ivies this year and has none of the first group. He did do a LOT of the second type and put a ton of energy into them.

DP with the same experience. DC has several unhooked friends headed to Ivies and other T20s from public high schools with scores in this range and this same “BMOC” EC profile. At least one STEM major, too. Maybe it takes crazy ECs from a few hyper-competitive high schools in the DMV but not for most people from most places. And we are in the DMV too, just not in a school zone where people move “for the excellent schools.”

This is key. Remember, the applicant is competing with those from the same area/school.

We joke we should've moved to Podunk, Nowhere so that DC could've gotten into a T10. But, DC said they liked that they were challenged in HS. They would've been incredible bored at a non magnet, and possibly, have lost interest in academics.

As you stated, if your DC was a BMOC profile then that makes them stand out.

my kid's roommate at HYP is from Podunk, Montana and puts a lie to that it's easy to walk into t10s schools from these places. he's incredibly impressive and even more impressive because he had to initiate so much of his own way. kids at magnets have it laid out for them - they have to do the work, but they dont have to create the path. he did, in many areas: academically they had to develop interests on their own and then find mentors to support them (in this case, not even in the country .. did it over zoom). and their ECs aren't debate or something that's right in the school or included in a email from the school, things they did in their own, not even in their community. including mountaineering/field rescue/expedition and high altitude rescue which was a real thing that took hundreds of hours, real strength/skill/strategy/training. Got a scholarship on their own to train in Nepal. All out of a middle class tract home in the not fancy part of Montana.

People dont realize that even if they move to podunk usa their kids would still have to compete with motivated kids. Those kids are in many place and not just in NY, DC, CA etc.

Eh, my rural living niece goes to a HS with more APs than fcps offers to freshman BUT then you realize the math offered is a max of AP precalc (not even ab or bc) and then stats and that’s it. So it’s a different level of competition…

Anonymous wrote:Our 1600 kid ended up with a lot of offers but chose Carleton

Anonymous wrote:Why are colleges in this post worse than the ones mentioned in the 1300-1400 post?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are colleges in this post worse than the ones mentioned in the 1300-1400 post?

Bc the whole application was lacking; scores don’t get you in.

So kids who scored 1300 tend to have more interesting ECs than kids with 1550? Don’t think that’s true. More likely that some posters are posting fake answers to make this point.

In reality, higher-ranked schools always report higher SAT scores than lower-ranked schools do. That’s just a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are colleges in this post worse than the ones mentioned in the 1300-1400 post?

Bc the whole application was lacking; scores don’t get you in.

Anonymous wrote:1580 off to UT Austin Turing

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Anonymous wrote:Really curious what the “lackluster ECs” are for the maybe-amazing kid of PP.

Is there *any* leniency on ECs for unhooked at t20? Sounds like no, no matter how high the stats/rigor.

to get into T20, you need like national award type ECs, or start an organization (a real one), done published researched, student body president, or something else spectacular.

Normal ECs like debate, mock trial, robotics club .. these aren't going to cut it, even with high stats.

This is just not true. My dc was admitted to multiple ivies this year and has none of the first group. He did do a LOT of the second type and put a ton of energy into them.

DP with the same experience. DC has several unhooked friends headed to Ivies and other T20s from public high schools with scores in this range and this same “BMOC” EC profile. At least one STEM major, too. Maybe it takes crazy ECs from a few hyper-competitive high schools in the DMV but not for most people from most places. And we are in the DMV too, just not in a school zone where people move “for the excellent schools.”

This is key. Remember, the applicant is competing with those from the same area/school.

We joke we should've moved to Podunk, Nowhere so that DC could've gotten into a T10. But, DC said they liked that they were challenged in HS. They would've been incredible bored at a non magnet, and possibly, have lost interest in academics.

As you stated, if your DC was a BMOC profile then that makes them stand out.

my kid's roommate at HYP is from Podunk, Montana and puts a lie to that it's easy to walk into t10s schools from these places. he's incredibly impressive and even more impressive because he had to initiate so much of his own way. kids at magnets have it laid out for them - they have to do the work, but they dont have to create the path. he did, in many areas: academically they had to develop interests on their own and then find mentors to support them (in this case, not even in the country .. did it over zoom). and their ECs aren't debate or something that's right in the school or included in a email from the school, things they did in their own, not even in their community. including mountaineering/field rescue/expedition and high altitude rescue which was a real thing that took hundreds of hours, real strength/skill/strategy/training. Got a scholarship on their own to train in Nepal. All out of a middle class tract home in the not fancy part of Montana.