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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry I do not have any advice for you but I just wanted to express my full sympathy for your situation.

I guess it depends on your state, but I don’t think he can legally take your two children to another state w/o your explicit consent.

Currently, he can go anywhere he wants with the children. As can she. Unless a court issues an order to the contrary. OP, before you start burning all your money up on an endless court battle, please try to think strategically. There are endless threads on here of women bemoaning the father's failure to look after the children. You are having this freedom offered up to you in a silver platter. Stop making decisions based on the notion that anything your husband dies is automatically bad for you. Unless this husband is a foreign national and you think he will try to flee the country, you have nothing to worry about. There is an interstate child custody compact which most states use to address multi jurisdictional custody disputes of it comes to that. Slow down and enjoy your extended summer vacation without the kids. Isn't this the break every feminist claims they want?

That’s actually correct. You need an order asap even an emergency order

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Anonymous wrote:Why would he want to move to another state and take the kids with him? That's a little strange unless he has a job lined up or family there.

He already told OP he plans to move to another state.

Yes, but something rings alarm bells based on the facts in the initial post.

No, people went completely insane and read their own facts into the post. No one said that they were taking the kids out of state. No one is kidnapping anyone. Guy came home and asked his wife for a divorce, told her he was moving out of state, told her he still wants to see his kids. He could have told her he was moving them there and enrolling them in school. It sounds like he was clearly talking about visitation.

And all this garbage about first-filing and jurisdiction is half-baked half-lawyer internet garbage. The custody case will be decided where the children reside. It will not be difficult to prove that they reside in whatever part of the DMV the OP lives in now rather than whatever state he wants to relocate to.

This post went alarmist and insane because this board is full of crazy people who think they're lawyers and lawyers who are really brave behind an anonymous tag, not because there were any alarm bells in the original post.

Op, I’m so sorry you are going through this. A couple of things occur to me:

1) you should alert the kids school and teachers about a potential custody issue. Better safe than sorry.
2) take care of your health, get an std test
3) if you can manage it, get a therapist

My ex did in fact take our kids on vacation (internationally) before we were formally divorced almost a decade ago. They are now almost adults, and have a good relationship with both parents. My ex sucked as a spouse but is a good parent. Only you know what kind of parent your husband is.

Anonymous wrote:Why would he want to move to another state and take the kids with him? That's a little strange unless he has a job lined up or family there.

He already told OP he plans to move to another state.

Yes, but something rings alarm bells based on the facts in the initial post.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the kids and disappear.

And I would prosecute you for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Excellent advice for Op.

How should she handle his current threat to take the kids all summer for an undefined and indefinite amount of time?

She should threaten to prosecute him for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Duh.

Talk about your empty threats. Unless she is an officer of the law, she isn’t prosecuting anyone.

Do you even fathom how monumentally stupid you sound?

Nothing worse than a pedant.

Obviously she means "press charges".

She can’t do that, either. Only law enforcement decides whether to press charges.

Still troll playing your autistic semantics game every other post?

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the kids and disappear.

And I would prosecute you for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Excellent advice for Op.

How should she handle his current threat to take the kids all summer for an undefined and indefinite amount of time?

She should threaten to prosecute him for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Duh.

Talk about your empty threats. Unless she is an officer of the law, she isn’t prosecuting anyone.

Do you even fathom how monumentally stupid you sound?

Your multiple unhinged Troll posts are the only thing stupid here. DCUM is really circling the toilet

Whatever are you prattling on about.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would take the kids and disappear.

And I would prosecute you for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Excellent advice for Op.

How should she handle his current threat to take the kids all summer for an undefined and indefinite amount of time?

She should threaten to prosecute him for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Duh.

Talk about your empty threats. Unless she is an officer of the law, she isn’t prosecuting anyone.

Do you even fathom how monumentally stupid you sound?

Nothing worse than a pedant.

Obviously she means "press charges".

She can’t do that, either. Only law enforcement decides whether to press charges.

Anonymous wrote:Why would he want to move to another state and take the kids with him? That's a little strange unless he has a job lined up or family there.

He already told OP he plans to move to another state.

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Anonymous wrote:No, if he takes them he can enroll them in school and claim that is their state of residence and you either have to move or give up custody.

This. My ex-SIL tried to do this to my brother. He didn't want a divorce, but we urged him to get a lawyer and he filed first to keep them in state.

I would consider this pronto. Do not let them travel out of state for any circumstances.

OP did not say her husband intended for the children to be enrolled in school at his new address. Where are you getting that from other than fantasy?

I didn’t say that. If he moves (which OP said he planned to do!) and files, the divorce will occur in that state.

Why are you trying to dissuade OP from filing ASAP if she wants to protect her kids? Stay in your lane…

. That divorce would be dismissed since the court wouldn't have in.oersonam jurisdictiion over the OP unless she has minimum contacts with the forum per International Shoe. If he tries to asset jurisdiction due to his having the kids for a few weeks that will fail as well since the kids permanent residence is the marital home that the mom lives in. He will have his case dismissed and be hit with big time sanctions and attorneys fees for attempting to defraud the court. Courts live to dismiss these kind of cases because they don't want to deal with another states stupid custody disputes. Alternatively his judge will order him to refile in the correct jurisdiction. Not sure why everyone is making up these stories.

Because the scenario is that he keeps the kids in the other state.

Why would he want to move to another state and take the kids with him? That's a little strange unless he has a job lined up or family there.

Anonymous wrote:do not let him take them out of state at least not without a legal plan worked out. he is trying to force you to move to that state by relocating them. you need an attorney, NOW.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would take the kids and disappear.

And I would prosecute you for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Excellent advice for Op.

How should she handle his current threat to take the kids all summer for an undefined and indefinite amount of time?

She should threaten to prosecute him for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Duh.

Talk about your empty threats. Unless she is an officer of the law, she isn’t prosecuting anyone.

Do you even fathom how monumentally stupid you sound?

Your multiple unhinged Troll posts are the only thing stupid here. DCUM is really circling the toilet

. Are you getting dizzy?

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Anonymous wrote:No, if he takes them he can enroll them in school and claim that is their state of residence and you either have to move or give up custody.

This. My ex-SIL tried to do this to my brother. He didn't want a divorce, but we urged him to get a lawyer and he filed first to keep them in state.

I would consider this pronto. Do not let them travel out of state for any circumstances.

OP did not say her husband intended for the children to be enrolled in school at his new address. Where are you getting that from other than fantasy?

I didn’t say that. If he moves (which OP said he planned to do!) and files, the divorce will occur in that state.

Why are you trying to dissuade OP from filing ASAP if she wants to protect her kids? Stay in your lane…

. That divorce would be dismissed since the court wouldn't have in.oersonam jurisdictiion over the OP unless she has minimum contacts with the forum per International Shoe. If he tries to asset jurisdiction due to his having the kids for a few weeks that will fail as well since the kids permanent residence is the marital home that the mom lives in. He will have his case dismissed and be hit with big time sanctions and attorneys fees for attempting to defraud the court. Courts live to dismiss these kind of cases because they don't want to deal with another states stupid custody disputes. Alternatively his judge will order him to refile in the correct jurisdiction. Not sure why everyone is making up these stories.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would take the kids and disappear.

And I would prosecute you for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Excellent advice for Op.

How should she handle his current threat to take the kids all summer for an undefined and indefinite amount of time?

She should threaten to prosecute him for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Duh.

Talk about your empty threats. Unless she is an officer of the law, she isn’t prosecuting anyone.

Do you even fathom how monumentally stupid you sound?

Your multiple unhinged Troll posts are the only thing stupid here. DCUM is really circling the toilet

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the kids and disappear.

And I would prosecute you for kidnapping or custodial interference.

Agree, and I'm the PP who mentioned the involvement of federal law enforcement RE: committing this crime across state lines. I'm shocked at the posters who mock and act as if the courts are ambivalent to this sort of crime. https://www.usmarshals.gov/news/press-release/us-marshals-apprehend-woman-child-abduction. It doesn't matter how much of a dirtbag spouse you might be, the courts do not countenance the kidnapping of your children as an acceptable remedy. As a man, it doesn't matter if you've fkked every secretary in your company and every stripper in the DMV. You still might be an outstanding father and the courts recognize this.

Since the father is legally entitled to take the children on a vacation with him, and legally has custody of them, he is not "kidnapping" them. So now you think it's a crime for a father to take his kids on a vacation for a few weeks in the summer? Ok nutty person.

Super, let’s see the separation custody agreement doc they both negotiated and signed.

He doesn't need a custody agreement to take his own children on vacation.