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Anonymous wrote:Ozempic face, ozempic breath, sulphur burps, constipation, hair loss, vomiting, etc, etc...

Ive been on them for 4 months and none of this has been a problem for me or any of my friends. This is tiktoc drama.

No one is going to tell you your breath smells like satan's a$$hole. There's no tactful way to do it.

Look, sweetie, we get that you just want to find things wrong with people taking this medication, but you need to stop making things up or believing everything you see on "medical influencer" TikToks/Reels. Those people are putting out "shocking" things to get more views. You're just buying in to it. Recommend reading up a little more on how social media works.

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are so dumb. So much hand wringing about how other women choose to lose weight. Why do you even care? It's like the same as those women who crow about how other women shouldn't have abortions. Like why do they even care? You're against abortion? Then don't have one. You're against GLP1s? Then don't take them. Who gives a flying F if someone else does? At least the abortion crazies have the whole "you're killing a baby" argument. What do the GLP1 crazies have?

You're calling the people who are recommending caution "the GLP crazies"? I think you have it backwards. There is constant proselytizing, really, like they are new converts to a religion.

It has gotten to the point where people are almost being shamed for avoiding unnecessary medical intervention. The converts cannot possibly imagine the idea that medical interventions such as GLP1 medications actually have trade offs and potential downsides. Why control your weight on your own, actually build muscle mass, eat real food, and increase your cardio vascular health when you can just short cut the whole system to “look good”?

It's more complicated than that, and you're not helping by portraying GLP users as lazy, gluttonous cheaters. I used to believe that anyone could control their weight on their own with diet and exercise. It always worked perfectly for me, until I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance. A lot of people are in a similar boat. GLPs have their place when used responsibly and under the supervision of a real doctor.

I won't disagree with any of that. I will disagree with the original premise of this thread to use these medications for vanity weight.

The population that falls into this category for obesity is very small: I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance.
The population that are using these medications to mask our food system and lifestyle culture and their own unwillingness to spend the time and effort to navigate around it is huge.

PP here. To be fair, food/overeating addiction is also a problem for a lot of people. Obesity is a huge health issue, and if the GLPs are the most effective way for people to reach and maintain a healthy weight, then so be it.

It's tough to have a productive conversation about GLPs, since a large chunk of the population seems to feel that users are cheating and don't deserve to be at a normal, healthy weight.

That's fair. But its also instructive to recognize that the constant victim mentality is also a core problem. Any discussion of suboptimality and pointing out actual FACTS - must be an allegation of cheating. Can't control your weight - I am a victim of the food system. It never ends.

The truth is human biology works in a very predictable way. So does life. Things worth doing are hard. You want the body to adapt, you have to force the adaptation. That's how it works. Want to run a marathon - gotta run a lot. Want the human body to control its own blood sugar - get rid of the adipose tissue, build muscle mass, and intake energy in line with your energy demands. The vast majority of people can do all these things, and it would be far more optimal to do it in line with how the body works on its own. Particularly on the edges of overweight as compared to dangerous obesity.

You do understand that not everyone's body actually works like this, right? That's why some people need this medication. But do go on and continue to feel superior.

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are so dumb. So much hand wringing about how other women choose to lose weight. Why do you even care? It's like the same as those women who crow about how other women shouldn't have abortions. Like why do they even care? You're against abortion? Then don't have one. You're against GLP1s? Then don't take them. Who gives a flying F if someone else does? At least the abortion crazies have the whole "you're killing a baby" argument. What do the GLP1 crazies have?

You're calling the people who are recommending caution "the GLP crazies"? I think you have it backwards. There is constant proselytizing, really, like they are new converts to a religion.

DP but it seems to me more that people on GLP-1s are constantly having to defend their decisions. So what may seem like proselytizing to you is actually just defending themselves. Either way, people need to stop talking about this - it's a personal decision and it should stay personal. I'm not talking to people every day about any medication that I'm on!

There is SO MUCH MISINFORMATION ON THIS THREAD. "I heard," "my friend," etc etc......

As someone who has been on a GLP successfully for several years with the full support of my doctors, I think I understand it pretty well. Nausea every once in a while but that's true of many life saving drugs - nothing extreme.

Reading this thread reminds me of going down the rabbit hole on a political conspiracy theory. And what is WILD to me is a lot of these people here probably casually bash RFK Jr. but then feel perfectly comfortable making up information based on heresay and preconceived notions (fat people should be shamed, obesity is a moral failure, etc.) and plopping it here on a message board. It's no different than MAHA, which is largely internet driven and heresay and feelings based on no science at all. (And goes against what the majority of doctors say.)

What makes me so sad is that someone who is thinking about taking the drugs (someone who really needs them and could be really helped by them) will look at this thread and start to believe false information because of all of the BS here posted by people who by their own admission DO NOT TAKE THE DRUG.

(Clearly what is also happening is a lot of the skinny people who have bashed the "fat drug" are now starting to want to take it and are twisting themselves into knots over why they would or would not. I have to agree that no one who just needs to lose 10 lbs should be on this medication.)

Anonymous wrote:Literally everyone I know seems to be on a GLP or weight loss meds and I have been hesitant up until now, but am giving it some serious thought. Looking around at my friends, colleagues and even family members on it, they all are in the best shape of their lives and just don’t think about food anymore, which is my constant struggle. And these are people who only wanted to lose 10-25 lbs.

My body wants to be 10-15 lbs heavier than I want to be so I am either strictly dieting and calorie counting to lose/maintain weight, or I eat normally (but still eat healthy 80% of the time) and weigh 10+ lbs more and just don’t feel like I look good - my clothes are tight and I carry all my weight in my stomach so people sometimes ask if I am pregnant.

My main reasons for not going on it are that my GP is opposed and isn’t a fan of the meds unless you’re diabetic/pre-diabetic (so I would need to go around her which feels awkward), and I am slightly concerned about the long-term impact that isn’t as well documented for meds like Wegovy.

Given how easy it is to get these meds now, what’s stopping others from trying them other than cost?

It is injectable anorexia.

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Anonymous wrote:Ozempic face, ozempic breath, sulphur burps, constipation, hair loss, vomiting, etc, etc...

Ive been on them for 4 months and none of this has been a problem for me or any of my friends. This is tiktoc drama.

No one is going to tell you your breath smells like satan's a$$hole. There's no tactful way to do it.

I'm a NP but my husband and kids absolutely would tell me. I've lost 30lb in 6 months and finally have a BMI of 25. If anything, I look younger because I don't look so bloated. From some angles yes I can see that my neck has some wrinkles now, but I'm 45, I'd rather have some normal 45yo neck lines than be 30lb overweight with high blood pressure.

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Anonymous wrote:Ozempic face, ozempic breath, sulphur burps, constipation, hair loss, vomiting, etc, etc...

Ive been on them for 4 months and none of this has been a problem for me or any of my friends. This is tiktoc drama.

No one is going to tell you your breath smells like satan's a$$hole. There's no tactful way to do it.

My husband, kids, sisters would. They haven’t. Stop making up stuff

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Anonymous wrote:Ozempic face, ozempic breath, sulphur burps, constipation, hair loss, vomiting, etc, etc...

Ive been on them for 4 months and none of this has been a problem for me or any of my friends. This is tiktoc drama.

No one is going to tell you your breath smells like satan's a$$hole. There's no tactful way to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are so dumb. So much hand wringing about how other women choose to lose weight. Why do you even care? It's like the same as those women who crow about how other women shouldn't have abortions. Like why do they even care? You're against abortion? Then don't have one. You're against GLP1s? Then don't take them. Who gives a flying F if someone else does? At least the abortion crazies have the whole "you're killing a baby" argument. What do the GLP1 crazies have?

You're calling the people who are recommending caution "the GLP crazies"? I think you have it backwards. There is constant proselytizing, really, like they are new converts to a religion.

It has gotten to the point where people are almost being shamed for avoiding unnecessary medical intervention. The converts cannot possibly imagine the idea that medical interventions such as GLP1 medications actually have trade offs and potential downsides. Why control your weight on your own, actually build muscle mass, eat real food, and increase your cardio vascular health when you can just short cut the whole system to “look good”?

It's more complicated than that, and you're not helping by portraying GLP users as lazy, gluttonous cheaters. I used to believe that anyone could control their weight on their own with diet and exercise. It always worked perfectly for me, until I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance. A lot of people are in a similar boat. GLPs have their place when used responsibly and under the supervision of a real doctor.

I won't disagree with any of that. I will disagree with the original premise of this thread to use these medications for vanity weight.

The population that falls into this category for obesity is very small: I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance.
The population that are using these medications to mask our food system and lifestyle culture and their own unwillingness to spend the time and effort to navigate around it is huge.

PP here. To be fair, food/overeating addiction is also a problem for a lot of people. Obesity is a huge health issue, and if the GLPs are the most effective way for people to reach and maintain a healthy weight, then so be it.

It's tough to have a productive conversation about GLPs, since a large chunk of the population seems to feel that users are cheating and don't deserve to be at a normal, healthy weight.

That's fair. But its also instructive to recognize that the constant victim mentality is also a core problem. Any discussion of suboptimality and pointing out actual FACTS - must be an allegation of cheating. Can't control your weight - I am a victim of the food system. It never ends.

The truth is human biology works in a very predictable way. So does life. Things worth doing are hard. You want the body to adapt, you have to force the adaptation. That's how it works. Want to run a marathon - gotta run a lot. Want the human body to control its own blood sugar - get rid of the adipose tissue, build muscle mass, and intake energy in line with your energy demands. The vast majority of people can do all these things, and it would be far more optimal to do it in line with how the body works on its own. Particularly on the edges of overweight as compared to dangerous obesity.

For your first paragraph, the truth is that you have no idea what is going on in other people's lives and why they can't manage their weight. It's not helpful in any way for you to judge who deserves a GLP vs. who is "just lazy." I used to be just like you when my body responded appropriately to diet and exercise. I assumed that anyone could be at a healthy weight if they were sufficiently disciplined. The reality is that weight is much more complicated than a CICO approach. There are any number of reasons why metabolisms can basically be broken. Maybe try giving people some grace.

For the second point, the human body worked in a predictable way before additives and hormones were added to food, the environment was polluted with all kinds of things, and a goodly chunk of the population was put on various medications. I would assume that between mental health meds, breast cancer meds, and a lot of other things out there, quite a lot of people are on medications that cause weight gain.

I agree with you that going on a GLP for vanity weight loss is a bad idea, and people should at least try to lose weight through natural means. But if all else fails, GLPs when approved and monitored by a doctor can be a great thing.

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are so dumb. So much hand wringing about how other women choose to lose weight. Why do you even care? It's like the same as those women who crow about how other women shouldn't have abortions. Like why do they even care? You're against abortion? Then don't have one. You're against GLP1s? Then don't take them. Who gives a flying F if someone else does? At least the abortion crazies have the whole "you're killing a baby" argument. What do the GLP1 crazies have?

You're calling the people who are recommending caution "the GLP crazies"? I think you have it backwards. There is constant proselytizing, really, like they are new converts to a religion.

It has gotten to the point where people are almost being shamed for avoiding unnecessary medical intervention. The converts cannot possibly imagine the idea that medical interventions such as GLP1 medications actually have trade offs and potential downsides. Why control your weight on your own, actually build muscle mass, eat real food, and increase your cardio vascular health when you can just short cut the whole system to “look good”?

It's more complicated than that, and you're not helping by portraying GLP users as lazy, gluttonous cheaters. I used to believe that anyone could control their weight on their own with diet and exercise. It always worked perfectly for me, until I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance. A lot of people are in a similar boat. GLPs have their place when used responsibly and under the supervision of a real doctor.

I won't disagree with any of that. I will disagree with the original premise of this thread to use these medications for vanity weight.

The population that falls into this category for obesity is very small: I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance.
The population that are using these medications to mask our food system and lifestyle culture and their own unwillingness to spend the time and effort to navigate around it is huge.

PP here. To be fair, food/overeating addiction is also a problem for a lot of people. Obesity is a huge health issue, and if the GLPs are the most effective way for people to reach and maintain a healthy weight, then so be it.

It's tough to have a productive conversation about GLPs, since a large chunk of the population seems to feel that users are cheating and don't deserve to be at a normal, healthy weight.

That's fair. But its also instructive to recognize that the constant victim mentality is also a core problem. Any discussion of suboptimality and pointing out actual FACTS - must be an allegation of cheating. Can't control your weight - I am a victim of the food system. It never ends.

The truth is human biology works in a very predictable way. So does life. Things worth doing are hard. You want the body to adapt, you have to force the adaptation. That's how it works. Want to run a marathon - gotta run a lot. Want the human body to control its own blood sugar - get rid of the adipose tissue, build muscle mass, and intake energy in line with your energy demands. The vast majority of people can do all these things, and it would be far more optimal to do it in line with how the body works on its own. Particularly on the edges of overweight as compared to dangerous obesity.

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are so dumb. So much hand wringing about how other women choose to lose weight. Why do you even care? It's like the same as those women who crow about how other women shouldn't have abortions. Like why do they even care? You're against abortion? Then don't have one. You're against GLP1s? Then don't take them. Who gives a flying F if someone else does? At least the abortion crazies have the whole "you're killing a baby" argument. What do the GLP1 crazies have?

You're calling the people who are recommending caution "the GLP crazies"? I think you have it backwards. There is constant proselytizing, really, like they are new converts to a religion.

It has gotten to the point where people are almost being shamed for avoiding unnecessary medical intervention. The converts cannot possibly imagine the idea that medical interventions such as GLP1 medications actually have trade offs and potential downsides. Why control your weight on your own, actually build muscle mass, eat real food, and increase your cardio vascular health when you can just short cut the whole system to “look good”?

It's more complicated than that, and you're not helping by portraying GLP users as lazy, gluttonous cheaters. I used to believe that anyone could control their weight on their own with diet and exercise. It always worked perfectly for me, until I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance. A lot of people are in a similar boat. GLPs have their place when used responsibly and under the supervision of a real doctor.

I won't disagree with any of that. I will disagree with the original premise of this thread to use these medications for vanity weight.

The population that falls into this category for obesity is very small: I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance.
The population that are using these medications to mask our food system and lifestyle culture and their own unwillingness to spend the time and effort to navigate around it is huge.

PP here. To be fair, food/overeating addiction is also a problem for a lot of people. Obesity is a huge health issue, and if the GLPs are the most effective way for people to reach and maintain a healthy weight, then so be it.

It's tough to have a productive conversation about GLPs, since a large chunk of the population seems to feel that users are cheating and don't deserve to be at a normal, healthy weight.

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are so dumb. So much hand wringing about how other women choose to lose weight. Why do you even care? It's like the same as those women who crow about how other women shouldn't have abortions. Like why do they even care? You're against abortion? Then don't have one. You're against GLP1s? Then don't take them. Who gives a flying F if someone else does? At least the abortion crazies have the whole "you're killing a baby" argument. What do the GLP1 crazies have?

You're calling the people who are recommending caution "the GLP crazies"? I think you have it backwards. There is constant proselytizing, really, like they are new converts to a religion.

It has gotten to the point where people are almost being shamed for avoiding unnecessary medical intervention. The converts cannot possibly imagine the idea that medical interventions such as GLP1 medications actually have trade offs and potential downsides. Why control your weight on your own, actually build muscle mass, eat real food, and increase your cardio vascular health when you can just short cut the whole system to “look good”?

It's more complicated than that, and you're not helping by portraying GLP users as lazy, gluttonous cheaters. I used to believe that anyone could control their weight on their own with diet and exercise. It always worked perfectly for me, until I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance. A lot of people are in a similar boat. GLPs have their place when used responsibly and under the supervision of a real doctor.

I won't disagree with any of that. I will disagree with the original premise of this thread to use these medications for vanity weight.

The population that falls into this category for obesity is very small: I was put on medications that cause weight gain and insulin resistance.
The population that are using these medications to mask our food system and lifestyle culture and their own unwillingness to spend the time and effort to navigate around it is huge.

Anonymous wrote:Vomiting, having to have my gallbladder removed like a few people i know, knowing all the weight comes back once you stop it, big pharma not knowing any of the log term side effects of this drug, thinking this is a lazy cop out too for those with out type 2 diabetes, should I keep going?

A lady who I know well who was on it also had to get her gallbladder removed, and she said a big part of what had helped her not want to eat was just how nauseous she felt all of the time.

Anonymous wrote:I enjoy working on myself and facing the consequences of my poor choices. This extra 10 pounds I'm carrying isn't because I'm 54 yo -that is a cop out. I gained 10+ pounds because I consistently overate for 2 years and became accustomed to eating amounts of foods meant for a larger person.

It's good that you recognize your flaws. This was NOT my problem. It had nothing to do with control, it had to do with insulin resistance. Now that this is under control, I am able to lose weight with exercise and a healthy diet. I hope that you can find your way there naturally since you don't have a medical issue that is keeping the weight on your body, it's just your inability to eat a healthy diet. I recommend working with a dietician to get that diet under control. Good luck!

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to lose muscle, don’t want digestion issues, don’t want to risk pancreas or gallbladder issues. My bloodwork is excellent and I exercise. I would not take them just to lose weight for the sake of losing weight. If my health changed I would consider it

This is what I think too. I'm pretty healthy, just have some extra weight. I'm fit and have good strength and endurance. I don't like my wardrobe issues but I am not trusting of this drug and concerned, I would create more issues for myself than just having a little extra weight.