Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hey LN. This is fun, thanks for doing it.
PreK 4 Waitlists:
DC Bilingual: #43
Shepherd: #21
EL Haynes: #14
LAMB: #27
LN here:
DC Bilingual: #43 - very unlikely. They let this many in five years ago, but no where near this number in the past five years. <10%.
Shepherd: No offer
EL Haynes: #14 - Very, very unlikely. They also let this many in five years ago, but no where near those numbers since. <10%
LAMB: No offer
Anticipate going to your matched school, and if you didn't match, consider picking some schools from the short waitlists dash once that comes out.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For K, Maury # 22
No chance. Over the last 5 years, the maximum waitlist movement was... 2 spots.
Anonymous wrote:For K, Maury # 22
Anonymous wrote:pk 4 - 19 at mundo verde calle ocho.
wondering if the expansion there will help at all or if the historic numbers for waitlist movement will hold true
Anonymous wrote:Hey LN. This is fun, thanks for doing it.
PreK 4 Waitlists:
DC Bilingual: #43
Shepherd: #21
EL Haynes: #14
LAMB: #27
Anonymous wrote:When do you think Walls waitlist #1-10 will find out?
Anonymous wrote:We are #8 at DC bilingual for 1st. Any chance?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hardy - 135
They only moved 101 off wait list last year, so aren't my odds just 0?
Is 101 a lot or no? How or why are waitlists moving that much? I guess it just goes to show that the answer to everything is “it depends”
LN here. Ooo the chance to opine.![]()
So yes, it depends, for sure. The short answer is, yes 101 is a lot for a waitlist to move. Very few waitlists move that much.
Generally, there are a few situations where lottery lists move a lot. Entry years (including K, because it's the first guaranteed year) for DCPS boundary schools can often move a bunch. Boundary schools need to take every single person in the boundary who walks through the door wanting a seat, even in, like, January. So they need to be very conservative about how many OOB seats they offer in March. This can often lead to numerous summer (and even fall) waitlist offers as they see how many IB kids enroll.
Another reason you'll see waitlists move a lot is a change in circumstances. Hardy's feeder pattern recently changed (JR to MacArthur), and that can lead to unpredictable enrollment patterns. More people than you expect may turn down an offer, and fewer IB students may choose to enroll when the high school is new (and thus unknown). You can also see this when a school moves to a swing space. You can see that with Brent last year - several grades with significantly higher waitlist movement than usual for Brent.
One final reason I'll mention here (I'm sure there are others) is late-breaking seats. If you have a seat or two open up in early September, and you call through the next 5-10 people on the waitlist (ie, those people with single digit waitlist numbers who maybe had hopes) and don't get a "yes", then you might end up calling people who never thought they had a chance at the school and had long since made their peace and settled in somewhere else - people aren't eager to change their kid's school in October. So sometimes a school may need to call through dozens of waitlist offers to get one or two more butts in seats.
Bottom line, you're right - it depends. Hardy had the first two scenarios happening, so they ended up letting a ton of people off the waitlist.
Helpful perspective. Also makes me curious about other context for charters where boundary isn’t a factor. I don’t think waitlist length and waitlist movement should be *the* signal for whether the school is trending good or bad, but it does make me wonder. Are we all sheep for a reason![]()
LN here.
Yeah, for charters, only the second and third apply. Also, charters can be a bit more aggressive with offers than DCPS boundary schools - if you've got 50 kids, and you want 50 kids next year, and one of them enrolls somewhere else, you can just let in another kid immediately. You don't have to worry about the summer random inbound enrollment.
Personally, I think waitlist length and trend is useful information, though there's a LOT of context. For example, basically ALL charters have shorter waitlists now than they did 5-10 years ago for PK3. In generally, to me that's about how DCPS quality has increased and more and more people are both willing to take a chance on their IB school, and more and more IB schools are at least considered to be potentially good. That shortens charter waitlists, but doesn't actually say anything about any individual charter school. But when you see schools that used to be considered "HRCS" (Highly Regarded Charter Schools) with basically no waitlists in some upper grades (CMI, Two Rivers) that is definitely telling you something.
I would read nothing into waitlist movement as far as school trends. There are WAY too many variables there and it says more about who they happened to call and their situation than the school. That matters for the chance you'll get in, but not how the school is trending, IMHO.
Anonymous wrote:Eaton WL #16
Janney WL #16
Murch WL #16
Yu Ying PCS WL #18
Stoddert WL#17
Mann WL #7
Maury WL #24
Hyde-Addison WL #11
Key WL #11
ITDS WL #9
For 1st grade? Predictions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PRE-K 3
Garrison Elementary School In-boundary Waitlisted - #7
2 Cleveland Elementary School (Dual Language) - English Dominant Waitlisted - #11
3 H.D. Cooke Elementary School Waitlisted - #32
4 Marie Reed Elementary School (Dual Language) - English Dominant Waitlisted - #111
5 John Lewis Elementary School Waitlisted - #34
6 Bancroft Elementary School - English Dominant Waitlisted - #126
7 Latin American Montessori Bilingual (LAMB) PCS Waitlisted - #210
8 Hyde-Addison Elementary School Waitlisted - #139
9 Seaton Elementary School Waitlisted - #7
10 Military Road Early Learning Center Waitlisted - #5
11 Tubman Elementary School Waitlisted - #36
LN here:
You have a good chance at several of these:
Garrison Elementary School In-boundary Waitlisted - #7: It's likely you'll get a spot here. They've offered more than 7 seats 4 of the past 5 years. So probably an 80% chance.
Cleveland Elementary School (Dual Language) - English Dominant Waitlisted - #11: They've offered more than 11 seats 2 out of the past 5 years. So, about a 40% shot.
H.D. Cooke Elementary School Waitlisted - #32: Unlikely, but possible. Last year you would have gotten a slot, but the previous four years, no. Assuming nothing major has changed, I'd say a 20% shot.
Seaton Elementary School Waitlisted - #7: So based on historic data, you'd get a seat here three out of the past five years, or a 60% shot. However, they're moving to a swing space next year, and generally, waitlists move a lot more in those situations, so I'd say it's a much better than 60% shot. Probably 80%+.
Military Road Early Learning Center Waitlisted - #5: You should get a spot here. They've taken at least 11 seats every year.
All the others, you're not going to get an offer from.
Thank you!!! Should I just remove the ones of no chance from my list? Would that immediately help others’ waitlist numbers go down?
You could and it would, but it wouldn’t move anyone into offer territory since you aren’t in offer territory.
Generally my advice is only remove yourself if, knowing what you know now with the match you have right now (not future potential matches even if the odds are good), would you turn down the seat from the school if offered tomorrow. If you’d turn it down no matter what, yes, removing yourself makes sense (will provide very slightly more accurate waitlist signals to all who care, essentially), but if you’d still take an offer, even if it is extremely unlikely to come, I’d stay in the list.
Anonymous wrote:PK 4
Maury - #65
Brent - #48
Ludlow-Taylor - #52
Payne - #20
Hyde-Addison - #36
Shirley Chisholm - #21