Anonymous
02/20/2026 13:01
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the foreign governments going to be reimbursed?
How am I going to be reimbursed?!
You don't have a claim against the government (probably). The importer paid the government. You paid the importer or customs broker. You need to take it up with them.
So will this be a giant windfall for UPS and FedEx who paid the tariffs and got reimbursed by their customers, and will now get reimbursed again the gov?
No if UPS paid the tax and got reimbursed by the customer the customer will have proof they paid the tax.
But in that case the customer did not pay the tax. It paid UPS. UPS paid the tax.
No in this example UPS paid the tariff and was reimbursed by the customer. I had this happen to me. I ordered ceramic planters. The price jumped from $120 each to $500 each. Was contacted by the shipper saying this is your new cost because of tariffs. I declined and I have no idea what happened to the items.
If I had said yes. The shipper would have paid the tariffs and I would have had to pay the additional money before the shipper would release the items.
So how is that different than a case where I buy something from a store and they include a tariff surcharge to cover their tariff cost? Does the store get the refund or do I?
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:52
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:So Trump will have to find another way to grift instead of "make a crypto deposit or give me a golden trophy in front of a crowd and your products will be exempt".
Trump has many ways to grift. Just yesterday he transferred $10 billion of taxpayer money to his account at the Board of Peace, an account only he controls.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:50
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Were tariffs also paying for the surge in ICE enforcement? Are ice agents not going to get their bonuses?
There are already news reports that ICE agents aren’t getting their bonuses but it has nothing to do with tariffs. Just the Dump administration being incompetent and/or cheap.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:44
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Should make for an interesting State of the Union.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:43
Subject: Re:Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
WSJ has a report from the room where he was when he found out - closed door meeting with governors. He left shortly after getting the news to prepare a response.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:41
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the foreign governments going to be reimbursed?
How am I going to be reimbursed?!
You don't have a claim against the government (probably). The importer paid the government. You paid the importer or customs broker. You need to take it up with them.
So will this be a giant windfall for UPS and FedEx who paid the tariffs and got reimbursed by their customers, and will now get reimbursed again the gov?
No if UPS paid the tax and got reimbursed by the customer the customer will have proof they paid the tax.
But in that case the customer did not pay the tax. It paid UPS. UPS paid the tax.
No in this example UPS paid the tariff and was reimbursed by the customer. I had this happen to me. I ordered ceramic planters. The price jumped from $120 each to $500 each. Was contacted by the shipper saying this is your new cost because of tariffs. I declined and I have no idea what happened to the items.
If I had said yes. The shipper would have paid the tariffs and I would have had to pay the additional money before the shipper would release the items.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:38
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My guess is that since the Supreme Court ruled it was illegal under these emergency act, but the trump administration is going to try and impose through other paths.
Correct, they’ve already said as much.
They certainly will but the other authorities available are much more limited. They have lots of conditions, like caps in the amounts, time limits on how long they can last, requirements for a notice and comment rule making than takes a year, etc. Trump can no longer impose 1000% tariffs on France because Macron said something mean while Trump was taking his morning dump.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:35
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
So Trump will have to find another way to grift instead of "make a crypto deposit or give me a golden trophy in front of a crowd and your products will be exempt".
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:34
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Were tariffs also paying for the surge in ICE enforcement? Are ice agents not going to get their bonuses?
No. ICE budget was increased by Congress.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:33
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's a huge mess.
One reason for Kavanaugh's dissent, based on news reports, is that refunds will be next to impossible.
That may be true, but it's not a reason to allow the admistration to flout the laws.
Trump knew it was illegal when he was doing it. The refunds are going to be a shit show.
The plaintiffs in these cases specifically sought injunctions, but they were denied because the Trump regime argued there was no irreparable harm since tariffs could just be refunded if later found illegal.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:31
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the foreign governments going to be reimbursed?
How am I going to be reimbursed?!
You don't have a claim against the government (probably). The importer paid the government. You paid the importer or customs broker. You need to take it up with them.
So will this be a giant windfall for UPS and FedEx who paid the tariffs and got reimbursed by their customers, and will now get reimbursed again the gov?
No if UPS paid the tax and got reimbursed by the customer the customer will have proof they paid the tax.
But in that case the customer did not pay the tax. It paid UPS. UPS paid the tax.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:30
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Were tariffs also paying for the surge in ICE enforcement? Are ice agents not going to get their bonuses?
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:30
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:It's a huge mess.
One reason for Kavanaugh's dissent, based on news reports, is that refunds will be next to impossible.
That may be true, but it's not a reason to allow the admistration to flout the laws.
If only someone had tried to get the Supreme Court to enjoin Trump from collecting his illegal tax until the case was resolved…
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:29
Subject: Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are the foreign governments going to be reimbursed?
How am I going to be reimbursed?!
You don't have a claim against the government (probably). The importer paid the government. You paid the importer or customs broker. You need to take it up with them.
So will this be a giant windfall for UPS and FedEx who paid the tariffs and got reimbursed by their customers, and will now get reimbursed again the gov?
No if UPS paid the tax and got reimbursed by the customer the customer will have proof they paid the tax.
Anonymous
02/20/2026 12:29
Subject: Re:Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal
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Liberty Justice Center - Tariff Equity and Refund Resource for America.
“If the Supreme Court upholds our challenge to the Liberation Day tariffs and allows refunds, Project TERRA will help small businesses claim back what they paid—clearly, quickly, and at no cost for using our resources.”
Tariff Refund Interest Form
Enter your info and we’ll email you when new details are available. https://libertyjusticecenter.org/tariffs/terra/