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Anonymous wrote:Well, hate to be the one to point this out, but Fine is correct that nothing he said is "racist" - Islam is a religion, not a race or an ethnicity

So you are perfectly okay with dogs are better than Jews. Or you’d take a dog over a Jewish person every time, because that is exactly what Fine said, except he substituted Muslims for Jews. Disgusting on both counts.

Jewish people haven’t tried to ban dogs though. If they did, I’m sure many people would express preference for their dogs.

Muslims in the US have not tried to ban dogs. Don't spread misinformation.

A random tweet from a person who is not in any elected position does not count as trying to ban dogs.

Then, we have incidents like this:

And, in the UK, this is happening:

Absurd. She is so disrespectful. Women need to start obeying men or things are going to take a turn...


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Anonymous wrote:Well, hate to be the one to point this out, but Fine is correct that nothing he said is "racist" - Islam is a religion, not a race or an ethnicity

So you are perfectly okay with dogs are better than Jews. Or you’d take a dog over a Jewish person every time, because that is exactly what Fine said, except he substituted Muslims for Jews. Disgusting on both counts.

Jewish people haven’t tried to ban dogs though. If they did, I’m sure many people would express preference for their dogs.

Muslims in the US have not tried to ban dogs. Don't spread misinformation.

A random tweet from a person who is not in any elected position does not count as trying to ban dogs.

Then, we have incidents like this:

And, in the UK, this is happening:

WOW. I’m so glad the young woman in the top video didn’t back down from the nutcase trying to order her around. He clearly is from a country that allows men to tell women what to do - perhaps he should return. What a scumbag.

Which country should pastor Doug Wilson go back to?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, hate to be the one to point this out, but Fine is correct that nothing he said is "racist" - Islam is a religion, not a race or an ethnicity

So you are perfectly okay with dogs are better than Jews. Or you’d take a dog over a Jewish person every time, because that is exactly what Fine said, except he substituted Muslims for Jews. Disgusting on both counts.

Jewish people haven’t tried to ban dogs though. If they did, I’m sure many people would express preference for their dogs.

Muslims in the US have not tried to ban dogs. Don't spread misinformation.

A random tweet from a person who is not in any elected position does not count as trying to ban dogs.

Then, we have incidents like this:

And, in the UK, this is happening:

WOW. I’m so glad the young woman in the top video didn’t back down from the nutcase trying to order her around. He clearly is from a country that allows men to tell women what to do - perhaps he should return. What a scumbag.

Pretending that there are not segments of the Jewish community (and the Christian community, for that matter) who are at least as filthy with misogny …

Priceless!

(I imagine it’s devastating for individuals like you to confront the fact that trying this propagandized game doesn’t work any longer … nobody believes you any longer than the extraordinarily small segment of the Muslim community that IS radicalized reflects the 99.996% of the community that is peaceful, has no interest in fabled concepts like Caliphates, etc.)

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Anonymous wrote:Well, hate to be the one to point this out, but Fine is correct that nothing he said is "racist" - Islam is a religion, not a race or an ethnicity

So you are perfectly okay with dogs are better than Jews. Or you’d take a dog over a Jewish person every time, because that is exactly what Fine said, except he substituted Muslims for Jews. Disgusting on both counts.

Jewish people haven’t tried to ban dogs though. If they did, I’m sure many people would express preference for their dogs.

Muslims in the US have not tried to ban dogs. Don't spread misinformation.

A random tweet from a person who is not in any elected position does not count as trying to ban dogs.

Then, we have incidents like this:

And, in the UK, this is happening:

WOW. I’m so glad the young woman in the top video didn’t back down from the nutcase trying to order her around. He clearly is from a country that allows men to tell women what to do - perhaps he should return. What a scumbag.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here and I can't say I disagree with this perspective. Dogs ARE unclean and don't belong in grocery stores, food service places etc. I would love it if we could go back to 1995 where it would be positively insane to bring your dog into a store. Have a dog as a pet at your home but the amount of public accommodations we're all supposed to make now for dogs is crazy.

+1

I remember when dogs became a big concern in France — all the dog poop nobody was cleaning up, so an artist went out and started creating “meals” around all the dog poop on the sidewalk, like putting the poop atop a mound of spaghetti. LOL

+1 another former two dog owner, and I used to work at a vet. Dogs are not clean, and cats aren't much cleaner, btw.

First poster here and I agree that cats are also not clean. People don't seem to have as much magical thinking around cats as they do dogs though in terms of cleanliness etc.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here and I can't say I disagree with this perspective. Dogs ARE unclean and don't belong in grocery stores, food service places etc. I would love it if we could go back to 1995 where it would be positively insane to bring your dog into a store. Have a dog as a pet at your home but the amount of public accommodations we're all supposed to make now for dogs is crazy.

+1

I remember when dogs became a big concern in France — all the dog poop nobody was cleaning up, so an artist went out and started creating “meals” around all the dog poop on the sidewalk, like putting the poop atop a mound of spaghetti. LOL

+1 another former two dog owner, and I used to work at a vet. Dogs are not clean, and cats aren't much cleaner, btw.

Anonymous wrote:White person here and I can't say I disagree with this perspective. Dogs ARE unclean and don't belong in grocery stores, food service places etc. I would love it if we could go back to 1995 where it would be positively insane to bring your dog into a store. Have a dog as a pet at your home but the amount of public accommodations we're all supposed to make now for dogs is crazy.

+1

I remember when dogs became a big concern in France — all the dog poop nobody was cleaning up, so an artist went out and started creating “meals” around all the dog poop on the sidewalk, like putting the poop atop a mound of spaghetti. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Well, hate to be the one to point this out, but Fine is correct that nothing he said is "racist" - Islam is a religion, not a race or an ethnicity

So you are perfectly okay with dogs are better than Jews. Or you’d take a dog over a Jewish person every time, because that is exactly what Fine said, except he substituted Muslims for Jews. Disgusting on both counts.

Jewish people haven’t tried to ban dogs though. If they did, I’m sure many people would express preference for their dogs.

Muslims in the US have not tried to ban dogs. Don't spread misinformation.

A random tweet from a person who is not in any elected position does not count as trying to ban dogs.

Then, we have incidents like this:

And, in the UK, this is happening:

OMG people. A single incident in Florida does not mean all Muslims want to get rid of dogs. Go to the Middle East — even Muslims there have dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important to point out that his original post was a response to this one.

What on earth did she mean by this?

After the snow melted in NYC, an excessive amount of uncollected dog poop emerged and people complained about

In Islam, dogs are considered unclean animals, and they are banned in some places. She is saying that NYC is coming around to the Muslim point of view, due to the excessive amount of dog poop on the street.

Further context for his comment is that in the UK, traditionally a very dog-loving country, there are efforts to ban dogs from public places because there are Muslims who don’t want to be exposed to dogs. This is commonly discussed on X. He is expressing his preference, given the woman’s post implying that NYC is coming around to that point of view.

The woman’s comment is perfectly reasonable, which makes Fine’s response even more deplorable.

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Anonymous wrote:Also important to note that he doesn't say we can't keep both Muslims and dogs, he's just positing a hypothetical situation where we were collectively forced to pick one or the other

The irony is Orthodox Jews aren’t fans of dogs either

How is that irony? In an Alanis Morissette way?

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Anonymous wrote:Also important to note that he doesn't say we can't keep both Muslims and dogs, he's just positing a hypothetical situation where we were collectively forced to pick one or the other

Why is that important to note? Who thinks there’s a scenario where we should choose, and Fine’s opinion matters on which should be chosen? That’s batshit crazy.

It’s important to note because that’s the content of his tweet. If he’s going to be slammed for it, what he actually said matters. And the context of the tweet he was responding to matters also.

The context of the tweet he was replying to is that dog poop is piling up in NYC. As the snow melts, apparently a lot of frozen dog poop is being exposed because people didn't pick it up. It's gross and people are complaining. Earlier in the week a NYC councilman posted on x "Pick up your f****** dog s***.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nyc-dog-waste-sidewalks-snow/#:~:text=By,big%20snowstorm%20back%20in%20January.

Here's Kiswani's explanation:

Kiswani told NBC News in an email that her original comment was “satire” based on a “hyper local NYC conversation” about dog waste in the city after the recent snowstorm, adding she was “satirizing Islamophobic hysteria portraying Mamdani’s mayoralty as a societal takeover.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/randy-fine-anti-muslim-post-on-x-dogs-calls-for-resignation-rcna259270

NP. Fine is disgusting and his comment is vile but the backtracking here is ridiculous. This wasn’t “satire.” She meant it, and this backwards scrabble doesn’t work.

No I think it really was poorly worded satire / a joke.

Googling a bit it seems like this is a discussion in nyc post snow melt. That the dog poop is causing a mess. And there has been smears for a long time now that Mamdani was going to bring the Islamization on nyc.

So she was like hey nyc is coming to islam like the crazies have been talking about because people are waking up to the fact that dogs are unclean. You guys are coming to our side!

I mean I think she meant the dogs are unclean part. The New York is coming to Islam part was satire.

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Anonymous wrote:Also important to note that he doesn't say we can't keep both Muslims and dogs, he's just positing a hypothetical situation where we were collectively forced to pick one or the other

Why is that important to note? Who thinks there’s a scenario where we should choose, and Fine’s opinion matters on which should be chosen? That’s batshit crazy.

It’s important to note because that’s the content of his tweet. If he’s going to be slammed for it, what he actually said matters. And the context of the tweet he was responding to matters also.

The context of the tweet he was replying to is that dog poop is piling up in NYC. As the snow melts, apparently a lot of frozen dog poop is being exposed because people didn't pick it up. It's gross and people are complaining. Earlier in the week a NYC councilman posted on x "Pick up your f****** dog s***.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nyc-dog-waste-sidewalks-snow/#:~:text=By,big%20snowstorm%20back%20in%20January.

Here's Kiswani's explanation:

Kiswani told NBC News in an email that her original comment was “satire” based on a “hyper local NYC conversation” about dog waste in the city after the recent snowstorm, adding she was “satirizing Islamophobic hysteria portraying Mamdani’s mayoralty as a societal takeover.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/randy-fine-anti-muslim-post-on-x-dogs-calls-for-resignation-rcna259270

NP. Fine is disgusting and his comment is vile but the backtracking here is ridiculous. This wasn’t “satire.” She meant it, and this backwards scrabble doesn’t work.

Anonymous wrote:White person here and I can't say I disagree with this perspective. Dogs ARE unclean and don't belong in grocery stores, food service places etc. I would love it if we could go back to 1995 where it would be positively insane to bring your dog into a store. Have a dog as a pet at your home but the amount of public accommodations we're all supposed to make now for dogs is crazy.

Dog owners french kissing their “fur babies” like it’s a torrid Cinemax After Dark sesh? TFOH …

Dog owners laughing it off when their dirty, spastic dogs jump all over guests sitting patiently on a sofa in their home? TFOH …

Dog owners doing less than their best to restrain their dogs that attack and wrap their goddamned leashes around the legs of strangers who are minding their own business and trying to enjoy their day or evening? TFOH …

Look, some dogs are amazing. Truly amazing animals. Some are annoying and in need of training. But they ARE all non-human animals, FFS. Nearly all of them are pretty filthy and many of us live in a dog culture here in America where we allow it to go too far.

I’m not endorsing some jack wagon with a megaphone trying to sound menacing like a big boy and making empty threats regarding his pipe dream of an American Caliphate or whatever. Come hell or high water, that’s not happening. Full stop.

But I don’t think their view of dogs, especially wild dogs, is past a line where we allow seated members of Congress to engage in the kind of rhetoric that this slob in Florida FAFO’d with recently. What’s worse is that that same slob would be at the front of the witch hunt line and howling for a national month of outrage if “Jew” was swapped out for “Muslim” in his bigoted quote …