UNC sounds like Brown except it ain’t Ivy

Anonymous wrote:UNC's goal was to reduce oos financial aid from 44 to 18 percent of total aid = save 17 mill in this cycle and going forward. Whether that change was pushed through is not clear but obviously you need 17 mill of additional oos income to hit that target. Full pays will become standard majority, like UMich.

Exactly. Basketball players need their Ferraris.

Anonymous wrote:After speaking parents of current OOS students, I am questioning whether UNC CH is worth the hype, academically. There seems to be a significant gap between OOS students and North Carolina natives due to the differing admissions standards. Teachers are readily able to pick out OOS kids, not by their accent, but academic chops. The OOS students from our average public school thought the coursework was easy (and these are honors students). (And before anyone argues sour grapes - UNC was my DD’s 2nd choice, but withdrew her application after being accepted to her ED school).

You post this on every UNC thread. The gap between in state and OOS. The instate kids are smart too. NC kids are just as smart as kids from other states. You have not spoken to UNC professors who are able to pick out the in state vs OOS kids by their "academic chops". Seriously, please find another hobby then waiting for your next google alert on UNC DCUM threads so you can disparage in state students. It is unbelievably rude, pathetic and mean. I really hope you are not a parent with views like this.

UNC's goal was to reduce oos financial aid from 44 to 18 percent of total aid = save 17 mill in this cycle and going forward. Whether that change was pushed through is not clear but obviously you need 17 mill of additional oos income to hit that target. Full pays will become standard majority, like UMich.

Anonymous wrote:After speaking parents of current OOS students, I am questioning whether UNC CH is worth the hype, academically. There seems to be a significant gap between OOS students and North Carolina natives due to the differing admissions standards. Teachers are readily able to pick out OOS kids, not by their accent, but academic chops. The OOS students from our average public school thought the coursework was easy (and these are honors students). (And before anyone argues sour grapes - UNC was my DD’s 2nd choice, but withdrew her application after being accepted to her ED school).

Unc OOS is not worth the hype. We know multiple students with 3.9+ who were unable to get into good grad/professional schools. Meanwhile lower GPA from UVA (in state) got in. Similar teat scores. UNC is not rigorous and not as respected as UVA. Unless Unc is free, do not waste the money

Anonymous wrote:After speaking parents of current OOS students, I am questioning whether UNC CH is worth the hype, academically. There seems to be a significant gap between OOS students and North Carolina natives due to the differing admissions standards. Teachers are readily able to pick out OOS kids, not by their accent, but academic chops. The OOS students from our average public school thought the coursework was easy (and these are honors students). (And before anyone argues sour grapes - UNC was my DD’s 2nd choice, but withdrew her application after being accepted to her ED school).

Academic hype or not does not matter. It is a fun school, in a great college town. Academically oriented kids who go on the Ph.D path excel everywhere. Others will find their way in life by networking and people skills.

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Anonymous wrote:Oos admits, are you full pay?

Yes, full pay. I have to say that OOS tuition at $43k a year is way more appealing than UMich's $63k a year.

And this is why UNC gets so many OOS apps!! $$ it’s a great value

Anonymous wrote:After speaking parents of current OOS students, I am questioning whether UNC CH is worth the hype, academically. There seems to be a significant gap between OOS students and North Carolina natives due to the differing admissions standards. Teachers are readily able to pick out OOS kids, not by their accent, but academic chops. The OOS students from our average public school thought the coursework was easy (and these are honors students). (And before anyone argues sour grapes - UNC was my DD’s 2nd choice, but withdrew her application after being accepted to her ED school).

I might actually argue that the trends this year support this argument for a lot of the now popular State Flagships, honestly. Some of these schools saw 50-60K EA applications, with the vast majority being OOS applications. I'm specifically thinking of UT - Knoxville, UGA, Clemson and Univ of South Carolina.

No way an OOS student that is applying with the stats they are accepting at these schools might not think that about an in-state student from a rural or "average" high school at any of those schools I listed above.

You might even argue that the academic rigor of a kid from rural VA is significantly less, or they had less opportunity, than some incoming in-state students at UVA, especially your TJ and Northern VA kids.

After speaking parents of current OOS students, I am questioning whether UNC CH is worth the hype, academically. There seems to be a significant gap between OOS students and North Carolina natives due to the differing admissions standards. Teachers are readily able to pick out OOS kids, not by their accent, but academic chops. The OOS students from our average public school thought the coursework was easy (and these are honors students). (And before anyone argues sour grapes - UNC was my DD’s 2nd choice, but withdrew her application after being accepted to her ED school).