Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened between 2022 and 2023? Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced?

The data that have been posted are not being represented correctly. These are not the numbers of people killed on DC streets by speeding drivers because no such data exists.

The data instead represents the number of people who were killed in a crash where speeding was determined to be the primary cause of the crash.

As most of us know, crashes often have multiple causes. A drunk person may be speeding, swerving recklessly, not paying attention, lose control of their vehicle, fail to yield, and kill someone. Take away any one of those factors and there is no crash or at least no fatality.

A couple of years ago, a pedestrian was killed on a crosswalk near where I live. The pedestrian was knocked over a hundred feet and it seems very clear as a result that the driver was speeding. But the driver was charged with failing to yield and so that presumably was designated as the primary cause.

This is a long way of making the point that the number of people who have been killed by speeding drivers is not the same as the number of people who were killed in crashes where speeding was deemed to be the primary cause.

Why someone on here wants to intentionally mislead others and minimize the public health hazard posed by speeding, I have no idea. But it is shameful and Jeff really should be deleting those comments.

This is completely wrong and awfully offensive to people who've had loved ones killed by drivers who were going the speed limit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened between 2022 and 2023? Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced?

The data that have been posted are not being represented correctly. These are not the numbers of people killed on DC streets by speeding drivers because no such data exists.

The data instead represents the number of people who were killed in a crash where speeding was determined to be the primary cause of the crash.

As most of us know, crashes often have multiple causes. A drunk person may be speeding, swerving recklessly, not paying attention, lose control of their vehicle, fail to yield, and kill someone. Take away any one of those factors and there is no crash or at least no fatality.

A couple of years ago, a pedestrian was killed on a crosswalk near where I live. The pedestrian was knocked over a hundred feet and it seems very clear as a result that the driver was speeding. But the driver was charged with failing to yield and so that presumably was designated as the primary cause.

This is a long way of making the point that the number of people who have been killed by speeding drivers is not the same as the number of people who were killed in crashes where speeding was deemed to be the primary cause.

Why someone on here wants to intentionally mislead others and minimize the public health hazard posed by speeding, I have no idea. But it is shameful and Jeff really should be deleting those comments.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened between 2022 and 2023? Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced?

The data that have been posted are not being represented correctly. These are not the numbers of people killed on DC streets by speeding drivers because no such data exists.

The data instead represents the number of people who were killed in a crash where speeding was determined to be the primary cause of the crash.

As most of us know, crashes often have multiple causes. A drunk person may be speeding, swerving recklessly, not paying attention, lose control of their vehicle, fail to yield, and kill someone. Take away any one of those factors and there is no crash or at least no fatality.

A couple of years ago, a pedestrian was killed on a crosswalk near where I live. The pedestrian was knocked over a hundred feet and it seems very clear as a result that the driver was speeding. But the driver was charged with failing to yield and so that presumably was designated as the primary cause.

This is a long way of making the point that the number of people who have been killed by speeding drivers is not the same as the number of people who were killed in crashes where speeding was deemed to be the primary cause.

Why someone on here wants to intentionally mislead others and minimize the public health hazard posed by speeding, I have no idea. But it is shameful and Jeff really should be deleting those comments.

This is completely wrong and awfully offensive to people who've had loved ones killed by drivers who were going the speed limit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened between 2022 and 2023? Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced?

The data that have been posted are not being represented correctly. These are not the numbers of people killed on DC streets by speeding drivers because no such data exists.

The data instead represents the number of people who were killed in a crash where speeding was determined to be the primary cause of the crash.

As most of us know, crashes often have multiple causes. A drunk person may be speeding, swerving recklessly, not paying attention, lose control of their vehicle, fail to yield, and kill someone. Take away any one of those factors and there is no crash or at least no fatality.

A couple of years ago, a pedestrian was killed on a crosswalk near where I live. The pedestrian was knocked over a hundred feet and it seems very clear as a result that the driver was speeding. But the driver was charged with failing to yield and so that presumably was designated as the primary cause.

This is a long way of making the point that the number of people who have been killed by speeding drivers is not the same as the number of people who were killed in crashes where speeding was deemed to be the primary cause.

Why someone on here wants to intentionally mislead others and minimize the public health hazard posed by speeding, I have no idea. But it is shameful and Jeff really should be deleting those comments.

Anonymous wrote:What happened between 2022 and 2023? Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Thus far in 2026, more people have been killed on the roads (https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data) than have been murdered (https://mpdc.dc.gov/am/dailycrime).

It’s wonderful that crime appears to have fallen so sharply and we can only hope that this continues.

However, that so many people are dying on DC roads is unsurprising to many of us who witness that moronic behavior of some drivers on our streets.

You get the award for most egregious misrepresentation of statistics. Here's more than a decade's worth of data, which is a tad more reliable than what random things happened in the past four weeks.

2024: 20 killed by speeding drivers, 187 murdered
2023: 22 killed by speeding drivers, 274 murdered
2022: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 203 murdered
2021: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 226 murdered
2020: 15 killed by speeding drivers, 198 murdered
2019: 10 killed by speeding drivers, 166 murdered
2018: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 160 murdered
2017: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 116 murdered
2016: 8 killed by speeding drivers, 135 murdered
2015: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 162 murdered
2014: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 105 murdered
2013: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 104 murdered

While some may choose to believe that your constant repetition of statistics that have been debunked dozens of times (since these numbers represent only some of the people killed by speeding drivers each year) is a demonstration of mendacity on your part, it seems more likely that you are unfortunately afflicted with a disorder that is affecting your ability to recall previous discussions. My heart goes out to you and I hope you get the care you need.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thus far in 2026, more people have been killed on the roads (https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data) than have been murdered (https://mpdc.dc.gov/am/dailycrime).

It’s wonderful that crime appears to have fallen so sharply and we can only hope that this continues.

However, that so many people are dying on DC roads is unsurprising to many of us who witness that moronic behavior of some drivers on our streets.

You get the award for most egregious misrepresentation of statistics. Here's more than a decade's worth of data, which is a tad more reliable than what random things happened in the past four weeks.

2024: 20 killed by speeding drivers, 187 murdered
2023: 22 killed by speeding drivers, 274 murdered
2022: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 203 murdered
2021: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 226 murdered
2020: 15 killed by speeding drivers, 198 murdered
2019: 10 killed by speeding drivers, 166 murdered
2018: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 160 murdered
2017: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 116 murdered
2016: 8 killed by speeding drivers, 135 murdered
2015: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 162 murdered
2014: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 105 murdered
2013: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 104 murdered

While some may choose to believe that your constant repetition of statistics that have been debunked dozens of times (since these numbers represent only some of the people killed by speeding drivers each year) is a demonstration of mendacity on your part, it seems more likely that you are unfortunately afflicted with a disorder that is affecting your ability to recall previous discussions. My heart goes out to you and I hope you get the care you need.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thus far in 2026, more people have been killed on the roads (https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data) than have been murdered (https://mpdc.dc.gov/am/dailycrime).

It’s wonderful that crime appears to have fallen so sharply and we can only hope that this continues.

However, that so many people are dying on DC roads is unsurprising to many of us who witness that moronic behavior of some drivers on our streets.

You get the award for most egregious misrepresentation of statistics. Here's more than a decade's worth of data, which is a tad more reliable than what random things happened in the past four weeks.

2024: 20 killed by speeding drivers, 187 murdered
2023: 22 killed by speeding drivers, 274 murdered
2022: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 203 murdered
2021: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 226 murdered
2020: 15 killed by speeding drivers, 198 murdered
2019: 10 killed by speeding drivers, 166 murdered
2018: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 160 murdered
2017: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 116 murdered
2016: 8 killed by speeding drivers, 135 murdered
2015: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 162 murdered
2014: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 105 murdered
2013: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 104 murdered

Anonymous wrote:omfg will the entitlement of biker bros never end???

Anonymous wrote:They haven't clearned majority of the sidewalks either. You can try walking to get places like the rest of us.

Anonymous wrote:Thus far in 2026, more people have been killed on the roads (https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data) than have been murdered (https://mpdc.dc.gov/am/dailycrime).

It’s wonderful that crime appears to have fallen so sharply and we can only hope that this continues.

However, that so many people are dying on DC roads is unsurprising to many of us who witness that moronic behavior of some drivers on our streets.

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Anonymous wrote:#5 is good too. Driving may be better for your health than biking. This person must be at the forefront of medical research because no one else has been able to prove that yet.

It just seems like a dumb comparison. I drive. I also run 40 miles a week. Do you bike 40 miles in a month? Probably not. People on bikes in DC aren't going very far or very fast so I don't know what you're bragging about.

The comparison is between you driving and you biking. Or me driving and me biking.

And yes, I bike much more than 40 miles in a month. It's a daily commute. Also, not about bragging, it's about you opening your eyes.

It just seems a little tortured. You're comparing something that is exercise to something that was never intended to be exercise. It's like asking whether it's healthier to travel by plane or by train. Also, people drive their cars to places like gyms, where they burn far more calories than you do on your commute. It just doesn't really make much sense.

You're almost there. Biking is both transportation and exercise. So is walking. Driving isn't. Get it now? Nevermind, I didn't expect you will.

Also, you can bike for transportation and go to a gym. Multiple people at my gym bike there.

I don't bike because I don't want to die. Bicyclists are deluding themselves about the risks they take. You'd be safer shooting guns or taking up boxing.

As a regular driver, biker, and participant in shooting sports, I can tell you that shooting is safer than either biking or driving.