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Anonymous wrote:I moved to the east coast 20 years ago but I’m still bothered by all the stray insults I hear from my ‘liberal’ friends about the ‘flyover states’ which they assume are full of uncultured idiots. For the most past, they’ve never visited these places. I had lunch with a friend this week and she made comments like this ‘I can’t help it, those places are awful, I’m a proud snob, I like art and culture and education’ - as if others don’t? We also discussed politics, taxes, etc and even though she claims to be a socialist leaning Dem, she noted that she has ‘carefully saved and invested and why should I need to support others who haven’t been as careful?’ Meanwhile she has only worked intermittently her entire adult life, spends lavishly much of the time, and primarily lives from her now ex husbands money.

She talks a lot about how terrible Trump is and how he needs to be stopped. I noted that it seems to be people from a flyover state who are out on the streets more than where we live…

How do you deal with snobby clueless people like this? Any good comebacks?

And no, slow fade isn’t a good response. If I slow faded everyone who bugs me af times, I wouldn’t have any friends!

This was exactly my experience when I moved from the Midwest to the Boston area. Few Northeasterners have spent much time in the Midwest, but almost all think they know all about it.

Note that when there are questions on Jeopardy about flyover state geography or the Great Lakes, the coastal people usually have no clue.

You are generalizing in the same way, so I don't feel sorry for you one little bit, PP.

Nobody’s asking for pity. But it would be nice if people wouldn’t be so dismissive of whole regions about which they know almost nothing.

That also goes for people in rural states that like to criticize coastal “elites”.

Yeah, actually — I hear this a lot more than I hear anyone from the coasts bashing on “flyover” states.

Are you kidding? People use ‘flyover’ ALL THE TIME

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Liberal people.

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Anonymous wrote:I moved to the east coast 20 years ago but I’m still bothered by all the stray insults I hear from my ‘liberal’ friends about the ‘flyover states’ which they assume are full of uncultured idiots. For the most past, they’ve never visited these places. I had lunch with a friend this week and she made comments like this ‘I can’t help it, those places are awful, I’m a proud snob, I like art and culture and education’ - as if others don’t? We also discussed politics, taxes, etc and even though she claims to be a socialist leaning Dem, she noted that she has ‘carefully saved and invested and why should I need to support others who haven’t been as careful?’ Meanwhile she has only worked intermittently her entire adult life, spends lavishly much of the time, and primarily lives from her now ex husbands money.

She talks a lot about how terrible Trump is and how he needs to be stopped. I noted that it seems to be people from a flyover state who are out on the streets more than where we live…

How do you deal with snobby clueless people like this? Any good comebacks?

And no, slow fade isn’t a good response. If I slow faded everyone who bugs me af times, I wouldn’t have any friends!

Maybe just tell her that she’s missing out on a lot if she’s not willing to expand her interests. You can like the ballet AND you can enjoy a good game of paintball . People from flyover country know this!

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Anonymous wrote:The Northeast corridor has some of the most parochial people I've met anywhere, OP. Lots of people who grew up somewhere along I-95 between Boston and DC and think it's the center of the universe. There are many people here who have never visited a non-coastal part of the US but think they are worldly because of where they are from. I feel bad for them because they don't know what they don't know.

And I hear you on people in DC who claim to be liberal right up until it inconveniences them in literally any way. This is extremely common. Many are liberal because they have been to college and undestand the obvious logic of progressivism. But, again, because they are so limited in their life experiences, they often have not actually developed any real empathy for people different than themselves. So it's an intellectual position only, and thus fairly weakly held.

But most people are not like this. It's mostly very privileged people who grew up, went to college, and now work in this part of the country and have never had their worldview challenged by someone genuinely different from them. I have learned to internally roll my eyes at them but otherwise just let it go. There are bigger fish to fry, so to speak. At least they mostly vote Dem and aren't openly racist.*






*they are usually secretly racist

Oh, yes. Those are the people who post here and say “I’ve lived in DC for 30 years and never heard of mumbo sauce! That’s not a thing!”

That was a real DCUM post. You can’t make this stuff up.

They love to be liberal as long as it involves wearing pink p5ssy hats, admiring RBG, and having a Very Important Job (and a Chief membership).

Truly sickening.

The whole thesis being discussed here is obviously wrong for one key reason:
The person who “lives here for 30 years” is not a DC native and they don’t represent DC. That person moved here from….flyover country. That means that they are representative of ignorant non-DC people rather than saying anything about the values or culture of DC. Shouldn’t that be obvious?

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Anonymous wrote:The Northeast corridor has some of the most parochial people I've met anywhere, OP. Lots of people who grew up somewhere along I-95 between Boston and DC and think it's the center of the universe. There are many people here who have never visited a non-coastal part of the US but think they are worldly because of where they are from. I feel bad for them because they don't know what they don't know.

And I hear you on people in DC who claim to be liberal right up until it inconveniences them in literally any way. This is extremely common. Many are liberal because they have been to college and undestand the obvious logic of progressivism. But, again, because they are so limited in their life experiences, they often have not actually developed any real empathy for people different than themselves. So it's an intellectual position only, and thus fairly weakly held.

But most people are not like this. It's mostly very privileged people who grew up, went to college, and now work in this part of the country and have never had their worldview challenged by someone genuinely different from them. I have learned to internally roll my eyes at them but otherwise just let it go. There are bigger fish to fry, so to speak. At least they mostly vote Dem and aren't openly racist.*






*they are usually secretly racist

Oh, yes. Those are the people who post here and say “I’ve lived in DC for 30 years and never heard of mumbo sauce! That’s not a thing!”

That was a real DCUM post. You can’t make this stuff up.

They love to be liberal as long as it involves wearing pink p5ssy hats, admiring RBG, and having a Very Important Job (and a Chief membership).

Truly sickening.

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Anonymous wrote:The Northeast corridor has some of the most parochial people I've met anywhere, OP. Lots of people who grew up somewhere along I-95 between Boston and DC and think it's the center of the universe. There are many people here who have never visited a non-coastal part of the US but think they are worldly because of where they are from. I feel bad for them because they don't know what they don't know.

And I hear you on people in DC who claim to be liberal right up until it inconveniences them in literally any way. This is extremely common. Many are liberal because they have been to college and undestand the obvious logic of progressivism. But, again, because they are so limited in their life experiences, they often have not actually developed any real empathy for people different than themselves. So it's an intellectual position only, and thus fairly weakly held.

But most people are not like this. It's mostly very privileged people who grew up, went to college, and now work in this part of the country and have never had their worldview challenged by someone genuinely different from them. I have learned to internally roll my eyes at them but otherwise just let it go. There are bigger fish to fry, so to speak. At least they mostly vote Dem and aren't openly racist.*






*they are usually secretly racist

Oh, yes. Those are the people who post here and say “I’ve lived in DC for 30 years and never heard of mumbo sauce! That’s not a thing!”

That was a real DCUM post. You can’t make this stuff up.

They love to be liberal as long as it involves wearing pink p5ssy hats, admiring RBG, and having a Very Important Job (and a Chief membership).

Truly sickening.

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Anonymous wrote:I moved to the east coast 20 years ago but I’m still bothered by all the stray insults I hear from my ‘liberal’ friends about the ‘flyover states’ which they assume are full of uncultured idiots. For the most past, they’ve never visited these places. I had lunch with a friend this week and she made comments like this ‘I can’t help it, those places are awful, I’m a proud snob, I like art and culture and education’ - as if others don’t? We also discussed politics, taxes, etc and even though she claims to be a socialist leaning Dem, she noted that she has ‘carefully saved and invested and why should I need to support others who haven’t been as careful?’ Meanwhile she has only worked intermittently her entire adult life, spends lavishly much of the time, and primarily lives from her now ex husbands money.

She talks a lot about how terrible Trump is and how he needs to be stopped. I noted that it seems to be people from a flyover state who are out on the streets more than where we live…

How do you deal with snobby clueless people like this? Any good comebacks?

And no, slow fade isn’t a good response. If I slow faded everyone who bugs me af times, I wouldn’t have any friends!

This was exactly my experience when I moved from the Midwest to the Boston area. Few Northeasterners have spent much time in the Midwest, but almost all think they know all about it.

Note that when there are questions on Jeopardy about flyover state geography or the Great Lakes, the coastal people usually have no clue.

You are generalizing in the same way, so I don't feel sorry for you one little bit, PP.

Nobody’s asking for pity. But it would be nice if people wouldn’t be so dismissive of whole regions about which they know almost nothing.

That also goes for people in rural states that like to criticize coastal “elites”.

Anonymous wrote:She’s just a faux liberal blowhard. I bet she lives in a bougie neighborhood or sends her kids to private, but goes on and on about ICE, incarceration rates, allyship, etc.?

Most people around here aren’t true progressives. They’re middle of the road corporatist Democrats who spew the “right” talking points. Unless it’s about the rural poor. It’s ok to crap on them, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:I moved to the east coast 20 years ago but I’m still bothered by all the stray insults I hear from my ‘liberal’ friends about the ‘flyover states’ which they assume are full of uncultured idiots. For the most past, they’ve never visited these places. I had lunch with a friend this week and she made comments like this ‘I can’t help it, those places are awful, I’m a proud snob, I like art and culture and education’ - as if others don’t? We also discussed politics, taxes, etc and even though she claims to be a socialist leaning Dem, she noted that she has ‘carefully saved and invested and why should I need to support others who haven’t been as careful?’ Meanwhile she has only worked intermittently her entire adult life, spends lavishly much of the time, and primarily lives from her now ex husbands money.

She talks a lot about how terrible Trump is and how he needs to be stopped. I noted that it seems to be people from a flyover state who are out on the streets more than where we live…

How do you deal with snobby clueless people like this? Any good comebacks?

And no, slow fade isn’t a good response. If I slow faded everyone who bugs me af times, I wouldn’t have any friends!

This was exactly my experience when I moved from the Midwest to the Boston area. Few Northeasterners have spent much time in the Midwest, but almost all think they know all about it.

Note that when there are questions on Jeopardy about flyover state geography or the Great Lakes, the coastal people usually have no clue.

You are generalizing in the same way, so I don't feel sorry for you one little bit, PP.

Nobody’s asking for pity. But it would be nice if people wouldn’t be so dismissive of whole regions about which they know almost nothing.

That also goes for people in rural states that like to criticize coastal “elites”.

Yeah, actually — I hear this a lot more than I hear anyone from the coasts bashing on “flyover” states.

Are you kidding? People use ‘flyover’ ALL THE TIME

Anonymous wrote:I’m from a fly over state and always bond with other fly over state transplants in making fun of our states and hometowns. The blah food, no art or culture, everything football or baseball, bad hair, obesity, constantly glued to TVs, regressive views and low education. As a GenX, the difference between fly over states and a large coastal city was enormous. The gap may not be as bad now with more immigrant communities and younger people moving into cities in some fly over places.

Some areas are becoming much more interesting like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota. If you changed the culture, states like Tennessee, and Kentucky have some really nice landscapes. Ohio and Indiana are mostly armpits. I don’t know how you do anything with Kansas, Nebraska or
Iowa. Missouri and Arkansas will never dig out of poverty and meth addiction.

Anonymous wrote:The Northeast corridor has some of the most parochial people I've met anywhere, OP. Lots of people who grew up somewhere along I-95 between Boston and DC and think it's the center of the universe. There are many people here who have never visited a non-coastal part of the US but think they are worldly because of where they are from. I feel bad for them because they don't know what they don't know.

And I hear you on people in DC who claim to be liberal right up until it inconveniences them in literally any way. This is extremely common. Many are liberal because they have been to college and undestand the obvious logic of progressivism. But, again, because they are so limited in their life experiences, they often have not actually developed any real empathy for people different than themselves. So it's an intellectual position only, and thus fairly weakly held.

But most people are not like this. It's mostly very privileged people who grew up, went to college, and now work in this part of the country and have never had their worldview challenged by someone genuinely different from them. I have learned to internally roll my eyes at them but otherwise just let it go. There are bigger fish to fry, so to speak. At least they mostly vote Dem and aren't openly racist.*






*they are usually secretly racist