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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

And the CEO gets upwards of 50 times the household income, what is your point?

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

The average rental cost of a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $5500 per month. Where exactly do rich people in NYC expect nurses to live?

Commute if you don't like the price. Thousands of people do it every day. Omg, boo hoo. You can't afford a swanky apartment in Manhattan. Welcome to life.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

The average rental cost of a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $5500 per month. Where exactly do rich people in NYC expect nurses to live?

Commute if you don't like the price. Thousands of people do it every day. Omg, boo hoo. You can't afford a swanky apartment in Manhattan. Welcome to life.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

The average rental cost of a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $5500 per month. Where exactly do rich people in NYC expect nurses to live?

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

The average rental cost of a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $5500 per month. Where exactly do rich people in NYC expect nurses to live?

New Jersey? Where do most people who work in NYC live? The avg salary in NYC isn’t 200k+ so clearly people manage something

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.

CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree

So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!

Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.

If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.

Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.

Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.

You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.

But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.

Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.

And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.

Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.

Or irrational, or unjustified. If you think entities employing nurses should be non-profit charities instead of profit-driven businesses, you'd certainly be happy if nurses made even less than they do now, so healthcare costs would be even lower. A lot more money goes to nurse, phsyician, technician, clerical employee, and administrative salaries in the aggregate than to CEO compensation. Maybe they should all work for free? Or maybe the janitor can run a complex healthcare enterprise a lot less expensively? Or would her salary also merely be the "extraction of value from the system", since they're not even providing direct patient care?

Feeble analyses leads to silly assertions.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.

CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree

So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!

Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.

If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.

Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.

Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.

You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.

But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.

Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.

And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.

Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.

CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree

So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!

Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.

If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.

Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.

Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.

You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.

But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.

Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.

And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know that nurses don't make anywhere close to what doctor's make, don;t be ridiculous. If you are surprised at whata nurse makes in NYC, I am sure you'd faint to see a doctor's salary. I'd rather watch nurses and teachers make more money than the Bill Ackmans of the world. Why do you all want the billionaires to get richer and richer while the middle class becomes poor?

A nurse can make more than a family doctor

thats crazy, time to lower the entry rates, why would you need a 2 or 4 year degree to be a nurse.

LPNs and “nursing assistants” don’t make much at all, commensurate with their lower level of training and lower level of tasks.

If you want nurses diagnosing your kids and serving as a front line of defense, you need them to have at least some basic understanding of biology.

Why would a nurse diagnose anything they need to keep the machines from beeping, bring meals, change beds under doctor orders they are really just human robots directed by doctors

Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.

CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree

So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!

Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.

If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.

Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.

Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.

You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.

But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.

Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know that nurses don't make anywhere close to what doctor's make, don;t be ridiculous. If you are surprised at whata nurse makes in NYC, I am sure you'd faint to see a doctor's salary. I'd rather watch nurses and teachers make more money than the Bill Ackmans of the world. Why do you all want the billionaires to get richer and richer while the middle class becomes poor?

A nurse can make more than a family doctor

thats crazy, time to lower the entry rates, why would you need a 2 or 4 year degree to be a nurse.

LPNs and “nursing assistants” don’t make much at all, commensurate with their lower level of training and lower level of tasks.

If you want nurses diagnosing your kids and serving as a front line of defense, you need them to have at least some basic understanding of biology.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

The average rental cost of a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $5500 per month. Where exactly do rich people in NYC expect nurses to live?

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.