Anonymous wrote:Rich people make a mockery out of education and the ideals that America was founded on

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Anonymous wrote:I’d be upset to have my kids in public school and think I had a good outcome just because my kid landed into a top college. These kids still had to sit through public school for K-12 with the class clowns, checked out teachers, low effort curriculum, and severe behavior kids. These parents have no idea what they missed out on in the better private schools for their kids. College is just four years and admissions has become somewhat of a lottery. K-12 is what sets kids up for success, not college. At that point it is too late.


Plenty of public school grads go to T10 colleges, don’t fit in or struggle, and move onto middle management type careers because they never were given the tools to succeed from public. Studying for 16 APs and trying to ace standardized tests doesn’t give you direction or real skills in life.

Plenty also do well. This is like a caricature of the differences as well as the outcomes. Sounds like a huge cope, per OP’s question.

There is plenty to not like about public schools but this take is absurd.

Not really. Most non-magnet public school students at top colleges struggle and don’t have good outcomes afterwards.

That’s an idiotic statement, with zero factual basis.

Kids who graduate Langley or Whitman or Palo Alto High school or any number of high performing public schools located in wealthy areas do just fine at top colleges and many have great outcomes.

Alright, but what about the average public school kid who makes it to a top college? Are they having great outcomes? They are not.

They do not get in. No average kid gets into a top college.

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Anonymous wrote:What makes you think we send kids to private school for college placement?

College placement is not a great measure of education but it tracks with test scores and grades.

The instruction in critical thinking, writing, and problem solving are not the same. Standardized tests don't measure these very well but they matter for life outcome.

Furthermore, the friends and connections you form in high school matter. They can help land a first job, get that promotion, or help with life down the road.

I can offer a recent example. My son had a friend from high school who after college suddenly lost a job. With one phone call I got him an interview for his current job that more than doubled his salary.

Public school parents tend to focus on college outcome, while private school parents focus more on life outcome.

This! And we also focus on the high school experience itself....

I don’t want my children to attend a high school where they won’t even be able to use the bathroom when they need to.

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Anonymous wrote:Are parents really pissed if they spend $35k per year on an elite private high school, but their kid ends up at a 2nd tier or 3rd tier college (which likely could have been achieved had the kid just gone to a local public)?

I ask bc I frequently meet alums of Gonzaga and the like who went to college at, like, James Madison or something like that. Seems like a huge waste of honey on the parents’ part.

LOL

Parents don't send their kids to Gonzaga for an education they send them to be indoctrinated into the Catholic religion.

And it makes the keep up with the Jones crowd feel better about themselves.

Also keeps their kids away from large minority groups, maga thrives at places like Gonzaga and we all know why.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the honest answer…nobody sending their kid to a top private expects their kid to attend a middling college unless they are an athlete in a revenue sport (in which case that middling college may be a top athletic school).

However, shit happens and some kids will end up at a middling college. Not much you can do about it other than support your kid.

Really the only kids from elite private schools are legacy at elite colleges. We (unhooked non legacy people) know our odds at elite colleges are better through public. And yet we still choose private. Hmmm. . .

Facts. But it’s also for the bumper sticker.

Anonymous wrote:Are parents really pissed if they spend $35k per year on an elite private high school, but their kid ends up at a 2nd tier or 3rd tier college (which likely could have been achieved had the kid just gone to a local public)?

I ask bc I frequently meet alums of Gonzaga and the like who went to college at, like, James Madison or something like that. Seems like a huge waste of honey on the parents’ part.

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who feels like there are a bunch of bored 14 year olds sock puppets on this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Are parents really pissed if they spend $35k per year on an elite private high school, but their kid ends up at a 2nd tier or 3rd tier college (which likely could have been achieved had the kid just gone to a local public)?

I ask bc I frequently meet alums of Gonzaga and the like who went to college at, like, James Madison or something like that. Seems like a huge waste of honey on the parents’ part.

People have said it here but you are making two incorrect assumptions.

First, many do not put kids in top private to get college placement. It is nice and it could help but college placement is a whole other set of considerations.

Second, many do not view it as a means to get something else. It is its own thing.

Third, for most people at top privates, the tuition (which is way more than 35k a year) is not a significant spend. Meaning it is not missed.

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Anonymous wrote:The private schools (particularly the catholic schools) equip students for life.

And ICYMI: plenty of kids opt for a school you deem less desirable for myriad reasons—including scholarships.

Plus: being a high achiever in a lower tier school could help open doors for grad school.

I can’t tell you how many kids I’ve met from SEC schools who ended up with scholarships to top law schools, med schools, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d be upset to have my kids in public school and think I had a good outcome just because my kid landed into a top college. These kids still had to sit through public school for K-12 with the class clowns, checked out teachers, low effort curriculum, and severe behavior kids. These parents have no idea what they missed out on in the better private schools for their kids. College is just four years and admissions has become somewhat of a lottery. K-12 is what sets kids up for success, not college. At that point it is too late.


Plenty of public school grads go to T10 colleges, don’t fit in or struggle, and move onto middle management type careers because they never were given the tools to succeed from public. Studying for 16 APs and trying to ace standardized tests doesn’t give you direction or real skills in life.

Plenty also do well. This is like a caricature of the differences as well as the outcomes. Sounds like a huge cope, per OP’s question.

There is plenty to not like about public schools but this take is absurd.

Not really. Most non-magnet public school students at top colleges struggle and don’t have good outcomes afterwards.

That’s an idiotic statement, with zero factual basis.

Kids who graduate Langley or Whitman or Palo Alto High school or any number of high performing public schools located in wealthy areas do just fine at top colleges and many have great outcomes.

Alright, but what about the average public school kid who makes it to a top college? Are they having great outcomes? They are not.

Anonymous wrote:Are parents really pissed if they spend $35k per year on an elite private high school, but their kid ends up at a 2nd tier or 3rd tier college (which likely could have been achieved had the kid just gone to a local public)?

I ask bc I frequently meet alums of Gonzaga and the like who went to college at, like, James Madison or something like that. Seems like a huge waste of honey on the parents’ part.

Anonymous wrote:The private schools (particularly the catholic schools) equip students for life.

And ICYMI: plenty of kids opt for a school you deem less desirable for myriad reasons—including scholarships.