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Anonymous wrote:Just so unlikeable. There's no way he becomes president if he runs, right? Someone reassure me.

He did beat Walz on a debate.

Americans don’t really care who wins debates. Surprisingly, debate nerds are unlikeable.

What are you talking about? If Biden didn’t debate Trump he would probably be the president right now.

I should have been clearer - Americans don’t really care who wins debates when both candidates have all their faculties. Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Trump 3 times and look where it got us.

No, she didn't. One book by Democrats said they thought she was losing the first debate, until she brought up the beauty pageant at the end and Trump went wild.
Trump won the other debates. One just by dominating the picture, the takeaway for everyone was that he was stalking her, though the reality is he was just going back to his podium.
The third debate, Chris Wallace won Trump the election. He decided to borrow from The West Wing and go deep into every topic, to expose how dumb is Trump.
Instead Trump got to spend the first half hour of the debate on topics important to voters in swing states, and flipped Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan.

Lol... Trump is as unfit as Biden. Grow up and smell the coffee.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so unlikeable. There's no way he becomes president if he runs, right? Someone reassure me.

He did beat Walz on a debate.

Americans don’t really care who wins debates. Surprisingly, debate nerds are unlikeable.

What are you talking about? If Biden didn’t debate Trump he would probably be the president right now.

I should have been clearer - Americans don’t really care who wins debates when both candidates have all their faculties. Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Trump 3 times and look where it got us.

No, she didn't. One book by Democrats said they thought she was losing the first debate, until she brought up the beauty pageant at the end and Trump went wild.
Trump won the other debates. One just by dominating the picture, the takeaway for everyone was that he was stalking her, though the reality is he was just going back to his podium.
The third debate, Chris Wallace won Trump the election. He decided to borrow from The West Wing and go deep into every topic, to expose how dumb is Trump.
Instead Trump got to spend the first half hour of the debate on topics important to voters in swing states, and flipped Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan.

Anonymous wrote:I’m really tired of the dim witted Gavin booster on DCUM.

Anybody who has spent any time in CA knows it’s a complete disaster. It is a shell of what it was.

If out of touch corporate Dems think a Pelosi-approved candidate like Gavin is going to win the WH then we are once again in for another four years of the GOP.

You might as well start looking now for alternative places to immigrate.

No one of any importance in the DC area thinks a Californian politician has any chance on the national stage in the near future. Swing voters matter most. They don't want anything Newsom.

I’m really tired of the dim witted Gavin booster on DCUM.

Anybody who has spent any time in CA knows it’s a complete disaster. It is a shell of what it was.

If out of touch corporate Dems think a Pelosi-approved candidate like Gavin is going to win the WH then we are once again in for another four years of the GOP.

You might as well start looking now for alternative places to immigrate.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so unlikeable. There's no way he becomes president if he runs, right? Someone reassure me.

He did beat Walz on a debate.

Americans don’t really care who wins debates. Surprisingly, debate nerds are unlikeable.

What are you talking about? If Biden didn’t debate Trump he would probably be the president right now.

I should have been clearer - Americans don’t really care who wins debates when both candidates have all their faculties. Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Trump 3 times and look where it got us.

Hell, Kamala Harris thumped Donald Trump so badly in their debate that his campaign refused to honor their agreement to do more debates.

+1

If not for her association with the extremely unpopular sitting POTUS in 2024, Harris would have destroyed Trump. Heck, just about anyone with a pulse would have destroyed Trump. Swing voters vote against status quo when they aren't happy and when a sitting POTUS has a job approval rating below 40%, goodbye incumbent party. It is what it is.

None of this is rocket science. It's basic political science.

1. I think Trump really will try for a third term. And the way things are going, I think the Supreme Court will let it happen. Even if states like CA and NY refused to put him on the ballot, he could still get an electoral majority.
2. But in the happy event that a third term does not materialize, I am enjoying the schadenfreude of the Rs being in the same position with JD as the Dems were with Kamala, i.e., the VP just isn't all that popular. Though they are slightly better off---the Dems weren't going to dump the Black female VP at the risk of angering the most reliable block of Dem voters---Black women. I don't think the Rs would get that type of blowback. The minute Trump is off the ticket---either because he's incapacitated or loses his third term bid, the R knives will come out for JD.

JD is just weird. He talks like Peter Thiel has a hand up his butt and is using him as a puppet. Oh wait, that’s because that’s exactly what is happening!

Everything about him just seems fake and contrived. Threw his mom under the bus and lied about his MC upbringing to score points and carry out a billionaire’s agenda. Cringe all around.

He's got no rizz. Please please please make him the 2028 candidate, GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so unlikeable. There's no way he becomes president if he runs, right? Someone reassure me.

He did beat Walz on a debate.

Americans don’t really care who wins debates. Surprisingly, debate nerds are unlikeable.

What are you talking about? If Biden didn’t debate Trump he would probably be the president right now.

I should have been clearer - Americans don’t really care who wins debates when both candidates have all their faculties. Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Trump 3 times and look where it got us.

Hell, Kamala Harris thumped Donald Trump so badly in their debate that his campaign refused to honor their agreement to do more debates.

Anonymous wrote:The NYT did one of their let’s talk to 11 Trump voters articles a few weeks ago and asked about Vance. Only 1 of the 11 thought Vance would be a good next leader for the Republicans.

At least 9 of the 11 bigoted against Indian people

The NYT did one of their let’s talk to 11 Trump voters articles a few weeks ago and asked about Vance. Only 1 of the 11 thought Vance would be a good next leader for the Republicans.

Someone in this thread REALLY wants to talk about anybody besides JD. Kind of says everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Who do you expect the democrats to put forward in 2028? As we’ve seen, the opponent matters.

Gavin and he’s gonna wipe the floor with the Hillbilly

He’s got baggage galore. Previously married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, cheated on her with his best friend’s wife, can’t get his story straight on trans issues, turned CA cities into drug-infested homeless camps, in charge for multiple horrific fires, the list goes on. If that’s the best democrats can come up with, Vance is most likely to be our next president.

Did he really cheat with his best friend’s wife or is this one of MAGA rumors. Was it ever confirmed?

Alex Tourk was a campaign manager for Gavin Newsom whose resignation in 2007 stemmed from the revelation that Newsom had an affair with his wife, Ruby Rippey-Tourk. Tourk, a close friend and aide to Newsom, had overseen the mayor's first re-election campaign.

With the current occupant of 6100, I think we can safely presume that voters DO NOT CARE.

Y’all are so naive. Voters will absolutely care when it’s a Democrat in question.

It's not Newsom's infidelity that will prevent him from winning.
It's his policies. He ruined SF and went on to ruin all of California. Homelessness, lack of fire mitigation, providing all kinds of assistance to illegal aliens, huge budgetary issues...... these are just a few of the many issues that any Republican will hit him with. And, he is very deserving of the criticism.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so unlikeable. There's no way he becomes president if he runs, right? Someone reassure me.

He did beat Walz on a debate.

Americans don’t really care who wins debates. Surprisingly, debate nerds are unlikeable.

What are you talking about? If Biden didn’t debate Trump he would probably be the president right now.

I should have been clearer - Americans don’t really care who wins debates when both candidates have all their faculties. Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Trump 3 times and look where it got us.

Yes. It's all the valedictorians on this site who think perfect technique & rational rhetoric matters. Cult of personality, people!

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Anonymous wrote:Just so unlikeable. There's no way he becomes president if he runs, right? Someone reassure me.

He did beat Walz on a debate.

Americans don’t really care who wins debates. Surprisingly, debate nerds are unlikeable.

What are you talking about? If Biden didn’t debate Trump he would probably be the president right now.

I should have been clearer - Americans don’t really care who wins debates when both candidates have all their faculties. Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Trump 3 times and look where it got us.