If it dismantles DEI it is a good thing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn't true that there are eno new concessions. Why do people keep saying this???

They agreed to abide by the Trump administration so-called anti-discrimination guidelines in terms of iuniversity programming, admissions, hiring, and other activities.

This is a BIG deal. I understand why they agreed - not agreeing would be catastrophic. But Trump is trying to reform higher education and UVA just signed on.

What did you think they should do? They have thousands of students and employees, a hospital, clinics, labs, etc. that rely on government funding. If they refused to negotiate, wouldn't they lose their funding and possibly pay a penalty on top of that? People have posted what Columbia and Brown had to do already. That would devastate a state school.

As I already said, I get why they signed for all the reasons you list. I also understand why President Ryan resigned: he couldn't accept this but he didn't want to be the reason that everyone lost funding.

But my real answer to what do I think they should do is not about UVA, it's about all the universities. They should have organized! They should have stood together and fought Trump. And so should the law firms. Unbelievable that they each settled individually. If the universities and law firms had stood together, they would have won.

Anonymous wrote:It isn't true that there are eno new concessions. Why do people keep saying this???

They agreed to abide by the Trump administration so-called anti-discrimination guidelines in terms of iuniversity programming, admissions, hiring, and other activities.

This is a BIG deal. I understand why they agreed - not agreeing would be catastrophic. But Trump is trying to reform higher education and UVA just signed on.

What did you think they should do? They have thousands of students and employees, a hospital, clinics, labs, etc. that rely on government funding. If they refused to negotiate, wouldn't they lose their funding and possibly pay a penalty on top of that? People have posted what Columbia and Brown had to do already. That would devastate a state school.

It isn't true that there are eno new concessions. Why do people keep saying this???

They agreed to abide by the Trump administration so-called anti-discrimination guidelines in terms of iuniversity programming, admissions, hiring, and other activities.

This is a BIG deal. I understand why they agreed - not agreeing would be catastrophic. But Trump is trying to reform higher education and UVA just signed on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

For a “non-event,” as you keep insisting this to be, it certainly seems to be a widely news-worthy event to the press. Or will you now try to paint this as “leftist propaganda!” or some equally ridiculous claim?

This is a valid point. I googled it, and the AP is indecently reporting on this.

https://apnews.com/article/university-virginia-trump-deal-dei-b61f24c918f801a292c85bcba5f17079

Doesn’t seem to be the “non-event” PP keeps claiming it to be.

Did you read the AP article? Or is your detailed analysis just that if something is reported in a media headline then something bad happened? From your article:

"Along with omitting a fine, Virginia’s agreement is less prescriptive than those signed by Columbia and Brown. The deal requires Virginia to adhere to four pages of terms, compared to nine at Brown and 22 at Columbia. It includes a clear affirmation of academic freedom, with an acknowledgement that the government “does not aim to dictate the content of academic speech or curricula.”"

This was a smart deal. No fine, no real concessions. Get out and move on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

For a “non-event,” as you keep insisting this to be, it certainly seems to be a widely news-worthy event to the press. Or will you now try to paint this as “leftist propaganda!” or some equally ridiculous claim?

This is a valid point. I googled it, and the AP is indecently reporting on this.

https://apnews.com/article/university-virginia-trump-deal-dei-b61f24c918f801a292c85bcba5f17079

Doesn’t seem to be the “non-event” PP keeps claiming it to be.

It's not a long article, but this part is interesting.


Virginia’s settlement follows other agreements signed by Columbia and Brown universities to end federal investigations and restore access to federal funding. Columbia paid $200 million to the government, and Brown paid $50 million to Rhode Island workforce development organizations.

Along with omitting a fine, Virginia’s agreement is less prescriptive than those signed by Columbia and Brown. The deal requires Virginia to adhere to four pages of terms, compared to nine at Brown and 22 at Columbia. It includes a clear affirmation of academic freedom, with an acknowledgement that the government “does not aim to dictate the content of academic speech or curricula.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

For a “non-event,” as you keep insisting this to be, it certainly seems to be a widely news-worthy event to the press. Or will you now try to paint this as “leftist propaganda!” or some equally ridiculous claim?

My observation is that everyone in this thread who read the settlement is being measured and reasonable. Everyone who didn't is raging.

Knowing that other schools that were involved in these DOJ investigations had to pay millions in penalties and UVA got off without paying, I'm okay with the outcome. Imagine how a financial penalty would have affected financial aid, academic offerings, hiring, etc. There are schools doing layoffs right now! Cutting programs!

Heard this on Morning Edition; it up now on the site

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/23/nx-s1-5582767/university-of-virginia-makes-deal-with-trump-administration-to-halt-investigations

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

For a “non-event,” as you keep insisting this to be, it certainly seems to be a widely news-worthy event to the press. Or will you now try to paint this as “leftist propaganda!” or some equally ridiculous claim?

This is a valid point. I googled it, and the AP is indecently reporting on this.

https://apnews.com/article/university-virginia-trump-deal-dei-b61f24c918f801a292c85bcba5f17079

Doesn’t seem to be the “non-event” PP keeps claiming it to be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

For a “non-event,” as you keep insisting this to be, it certainly seems to be a widely news-worthy event to the press. Or will you now try to paint this as “leftist propaganda!” or some equally ridiculous claim?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

This is truly cope.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

Couldn’t have stated it better.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

+1. DP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.

Because government investigations are extremely costly and disruptive, and if you can resolve one while giving absolutely nothing up, it almost always makes sense to do so. To resolve this one, they agreed not to violate the law in the future. Whether they signed or not, the government could still come back later and investigate if they violated the law later. This is truly a non-event.

Anonymous wrote:If it is a big nothing then why sign it and give the corrupt bully gov an opportunity to exploit them? Why not stand up and say we aren’t doing any of this already and won’t be used as a pawn in your own fake news campaign? Says a lot about UVA.

Exactly!

The person trying to claim this is a “giant nothingburger” is some MAGA UVA grad trying to astroturf what really happened.