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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

It's not that there are no answers, there are only answers that are validated and logical. All others are perpetuating mythology.

Sounds like you have never had a conversation with your teenager about the meaning of life. Or if you did, you did more talking than listening. These aren’t validated and logical conversations.

I have. It was an easy talk to have. I'm not failing at parenting by teaching them to believe in myths and superstition.

I think you are failing at parenting if you think you can make your teenagers believe anything or that they will believe something just because you believe it.

LOL. The PP never said anything about making their kids "believe"!

Right - They just want their kids to follow orders.

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

It's not that there are no answers, there are only answers that are validated and logical. All others are perpetuating mythology.

Sounds like you have never had a conversation with your teenager about the meaning of life. Or if you did, you did more talking than listening. These aren’t validated and logical conversations.

I have. It was an easy talk to have. I'm not failing at parenting by teaching them to believe in myths and superstition.

I think you are failing at parenting if you think you can make your teenagers believe anything or that they will believe something just because you believe it.

LOL. The PP never said anything about making their kids "believe"!

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

It's not that there are no answers, there are only answers that are validated and logical. All others are perpetuating mythology.

Sounds like you have never had a conversation with your teenager about the meaning of life. Or if you did, you did more talking than listening. These aren’t validated and logical conversations.

I have. It was an easy talk to have. I'm not failing at parenting by teaching them to believe in myths and superstition.

I think you are failing at parenting if you think you can make your teenagers believe anything or that they will believe something just because you believe it.

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

It's not that there are no answers, there are only answers that are validated and logical. All others are perpetuating mythology.

Sounds like you have never had a conversation with your teenager about the meaning of life. Or if you did, you did more talking than listening. These aren’t validated and logical conversations.

I have. It was an easy talk to have. I'm not failing at parenting by teaching them to believe in myths and superstition.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with someone above who said to plow through. These years will go fast and before you know it - you have no control over whether they go or not. I prioritized mass every Sunday even with travel sports. I can’t say if it mattered yet, but I tried. Make it a positive event and add donuts or bagels afterwards.

Back to bribery you clearly have not read through the other posts

If you have to force yourself and your family to do something, do you think you are losing the meaning of doing it?

I don’t believe it is bribery. Instead, it is making the whole experience a positive family event. I remember growing up and getting donuts after mass. In high school, my mom and I went to Farrells. In my 20s, I went to dinner with my grandparents after meeting them for mass on a Saturday night.

Do you remember the sermons? Do you practice what was preached every moment of every day?

okay, now we know that you're crazy. PP sounded reasonable. You do not.

Its crazy to ask someone who detailed remembering what they ate and did after church but not what they learned from the lesson?

You and possible some others on here are sounding very much like the Pharisees. Understand? Maybe go back and re-read how Jesus felt about them.

Non-sequitur much? What does this have to do with asking someone if they learned about the sermons they heard?

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

It's not that there are no answers, there are only answers that are validated and logical. All others are perpetuating mythology.

Sounds like you have never had a conversation with your teenager about the meaning of life. Or if you did, you did more talking than listening. These aren’t validated and logical conversations.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with someone above who said to plow through. These years will go fast and before you know it - you have no control over whether they go or not. I prioritized mass every Sunday even with travel sports. I can’t say if it mattered yet, but I tried. Make it a positive event and add donuts or bagels afterwards.

Back to bribery you clearly have not read through the other posts

If you have to force yourself and your family to do something, do you think you are losing the meaning of doing it?

I don’t believe it is bribery. Instead, it is making the whole experience a positive family event. I remember growing up and getting donuts after mass. In high school, my mom and I went to Farrells. In my 20s, I went to dinner with my grandparents after meeting them for mass on a Saturday night.

Do you remember the sermons? Do you practice what was preached every moment of every day?

okay, now we know that you're crazy. PP sounded reasonable. You do not.

Its crazy to ask someone who detailed remembering what they ate and did after church but not what they learned from the lesson?

You and possible some others on here are sounding very much like the Pharisees. Understand? Maybe go back and re-read how Jesus felt about them.

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

It's not that there are no answers, there are only answers that are validated and logical. All others are perpetuating mythology.

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

No. I got it. You think that if kids ask questions there are no answers.

The reality is that theological discussions with tweens and teens are actually really interesting, especially if they are at a different place in their faith than you are.

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

You soooo understood the point of the original message

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

What ages? It’s good that they are asking questions! That means they are interested in learning about their religion.

Anonymous wrote:It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

Tell me about it! Its easy when the kids are young, but as they get older and start to ask questions, I struggle to overcome the cognitive dissonance.

It definitely is a lot of work. Between modern science and the lack of any supporting material evidence indicating these myths have even an iota of truth to them, the only way to perpetuate them is to indoctrinate children and instill fear of free thinking early. I must ensure my kids get a solid dose of brainwashing at least weekly to prevent succumbing to logical thinking.

OP, I hear ya! I get two kids (1 and 4) out the door solo almost every Sunday. They at least like church but it’s still a lot of work. After trying to make it work for months and being burned out I decided to take off a week here or there. If we had a big day on Saturday, we rested Sunday. Or if I wasn’t serving that week I would just take off. It helped immensely just knowing I didn’t have to go every Sunday and now I maybe miss one a month. Take the weeks off when you need them!

As for my kids, I have been very intentional about explaining why we go to church and what we do there, as well as asking them how they like it. My oldest sometimes gets excited that we get to stay home, but getting them out the door is never a battle.

Is there also yelling, dawdling, whatever EVERY TIME the kids have tongo anywhere like school, sports, shopping trips, parties?
Is this a general parenting issue not just church?
Figure out how to change the dynamic.