Nah. No one is being targeted.

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this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Here's why this is racist. There are many Indian-Canadians...yet the meme seems to imply that the only Canadian in the photo is the white woman. For all I know, she's American.

The meme relies on bigoted, race-based assumptions to work. As a non-white American, I find stuff like this dangerous and terror inducing.

It's not terror inducing for immigration and its consequences to be a matter of public discussion. You look at that picture and think it's about race because the leftist brain stops computing once it hits skin deep. I look at that picture and think it is about immigration policies and the fact that most nations try to import people from a mix of regions in order to preserve the native culture and ensure assimilation of immigrants. That's the issue in Canada right now. They aren't opposed to Indians, they are opposed to the rate of immigration from one nation and its cultural consequences. And yes. Nations, including western ones, have a right to explicitly work to preserve their culture.

On what are you basing the perception that it's about immigration? Plenty on Canadians look like the people in that picture.

I'm American, born in Detroit, and I look like the people in that picture. Yet somehow all the people who claim not to care about race, only immigration, assume i'm not American. I wonder why.

Stop being cute. The canadian population looked one way 20 years ago and a different way now. They didn't spontaneously turn Indian looking. They had a change in immigration policies that has brought in a 1000% increase in Indian immigrants since 2014. Okay, stop doing this "I don't see color" routine when it comes to immigration. We both look at this picture and know that it is all ethnically southwest Asian people and one ethnically white person and that it may have something to do with all the college age Indian males that have immigrated to Canada. All this garbage about race is just a way to dodge the fact that these policies suppress wages for the native population.

White native Americans felt exactly the same as you do in the early part of the century when foreigners were migrating into the country at a rapid pace. Most of those foreigners were white as well but nativists STILL found ways to discriminate against them (“Irish need not apply” etc). It’s a story as old as this country.

It looks like we've found a point of agreement: that cultures have inherent value and that its not only morally permissible for communities to protect their cultures, it's also morally REQUIRED for governments to do so. The native Americans were absolutely in the right to defend themselves and their territory. When they lost, they were 100% correct to negotiate sovereign territory and exempt themselves from laws rooted in culture like bans on hunting certain animals. They didn't do this because they hated the invaders for being white. I think you know that, even if you won't say it, that the native Americans weren't engaged in a race war. Not. Every. Thing. Is. Race. And using race like a shield to avoid discussion about the economics of immigration is pathetic.

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this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Here's why this is racist. There are many Indian-Canadians...yet the meme seems to imply that the only Canadian in the photo is the white woman. For all I know, she's American.

The meme relies on bigoted, race-based assumptions to work. As a non-white American, I find stuff like this dangerous and terror inducing.

It's not terror inducing for immigration and its consequences to be a matter of public discussion. You look at that picture and think it's about race because the leftist brain stops computing once it hits skin deep. I look at that picture and think it is about immigration policies and the fact that most nations try to import people from a mix of regions in order to preserve the native culture and ensure assimilation of immigrants. That's the issue in Canada right now. They aren't opposed to Indians, they are opposed to the rate of immigration from one nation and its cultural consequences. And yes. Nations, including western ones, have a right to explicitly work to preserve their culture.

On what are you basing the perception that it's about immigration? Plenty on Canadians look like the people in that picture.

I'm American, born in Detroit, and I look like the people in that picture. Yet somehow all the people who claim not to care about race, only immigration, assume i'm not American. I wonder why.

Stop being cute. The canadian population looked one way 20 years ago and a different way now. They didn't spontaneously turn Indian looking. They had a change in immigration policies that has brought in a 1000% increase in Indian immigrants since 2014. Okay, stop doing this "I don't see color" routine when it comes to immigration. We both look at this picture and know that it is all ethnically southwest Asian people and one ethnically white person and that it may have something to do with all the college age Indian males that have immigrated to Canada. All this garbage about race is just a way to dodge the fact that these policies suppress wages for the native population.

White native Americans felt exactly the same as you do in the early part of the century when foreigners were migrating into the country at a rapid pace. Most of those foreigners were white as well but nativists STILL found ways to discriminate against them (“Irish need not apply” etc). It’s a story as old as this country.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Here's why this is racist. There are many Indian-Canadians...yet the meme seems to imply that the only Canadian in the photo is the white woman. For all I know, she's American.

The meme relies on bigoted, race-based assumptions to work. As a non-white American, I find stuff like this dangerous and terror inducing.

It's not terror inducing for immigration and its consequences to be a matter of public discussion. You look at that picture and think it's about race because the leftist brain stops computing once it hits skin deep. I look at that picture and think it is about immigration policies and the fact that most nations try to import people from a mix of regions in order to preserve the native culture and ensure assimilation of immigrants. That's the issue in Canada right now. They aren't opposed to Indians, they are opposed to the rate of immigration from one nation and its cultural consequences. And yes. Nations, including western ones, have a right to explicitly work to preserve their culture.

You have no idea if those people are immigrants or Canadian-born.

Assuming they are immigrants is a bigoted assumption.

Even liberals in Canada aren't having this guilt tripping dodge of the issue anymore, and Trudeau was forced to reduce the visas from India. And it still didnt save him politically.

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this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Here's why this is racist. There are many Indian-Canadians...yet the meme seems to imply that the only Canadian in the photo is the white woman. For all I know, she's American.

The meme relies on bigoted, race-based assumptions to work. As a non-white American, I find stuff like this dangerous and terror inducing.

It's not terror inducing for immigration and its consequences to be a matter of public discussion. You look at that picture and think it's about race because the leftist brain stops computing once it hits skin deep. I look at that picture and think it is about immigration policies and the fact that most nations try to import people from a mix of regions in order to preserve the native culture and ensure assimilation of immigrants. That's the issue in Canada right now. They aren't opposed to Indians, they are opposed to the rate of immigration from one nation and its cultural consequences. And yes. Nations, including western ones, have a right to explicitly work to preserve their culture.

On what are you basing the perception that it's about immigration? Plenty on Canadians look like the people in that picture.

I'm American, born in Detroit, and I look like the people in that picture. Yet somehow all the people who claim not to care about race, only immigration, assume i'm not American. I wonder why.

Stop being cute. The canadian population looked one way 20 years ago and a different way now. They didn't spontaneously turn Indian looking. They had a change in immigration policies that has brought in a 1000% increase in Indian immigrants since 2014. Okay, stop doing this "I don't see color" routine when it comes to immigration. We both look at this picture and know that it is all ethnically southwest Asian people and one ethnically white person and that it may have something to do with all the college age Indian males that have immigrated to Canada. All this garbage about race is just a way to dodge the fact that these policies suppress wages for the native population.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Here's why this is racist. There are many Indian-Canadians...yet the meme seems to imply that the only Canadian in the photo is the white woman. For all I know, she's American.

The meme relies on bigoted, race-based assumptions to work. As a non-white American, I find stuff like this dangerous and terror inducing.

It's not terror inducing for immigration and its consequences to be a matter of public discussion. You look at that picture and think it's about race because the leftist brain stops computing once it hits skin deep. I look at that picture and think it is about immigration policies and the fact that most nations try to import people from a mix of regions in order to preserve the native culture and ensure assimilation of immigrants. That's the issue in Canada right now. They aren't opposed to Indians, they are opposed to the rate of immigration from one nation and its cultural consequences. And yes. Nations, including western ones, have a right to explicitly work to preserve their culture.

You have no idea if those people are immigrants or Canadian-born.

Assuming they are immigrants is a bigoted assumption.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Here's why this is racist. There are many Indian-Canadians...yet the meme seems to imply that the only Canadian in the photo is the white woman. For all I know, she's American.

The meme relies on bigoted, race-based assumptions to work. As a non-white American, I find stuff like this dangerous and terror inducing.

It's not terror inducing for immigration and its consequences to be a matter of public discussion. You look at that picture and think it's about race because the leftist brain stops computing once it hits skin deep. I look at that picture and think it is about immigration policies and the fact that most nations try to import people from a mix of regions in order to preserve the native culture and ensure assimilation of immigrants. That's the issue in Canada right now. They aren't opposed to Indians, they are opposed to the rate of immigration from one nation and its cultural consequences. And yes. Nations, including western ones, have a right to explicitly work to preserve their culture.

On what are you basing the perception that it's about immigration? Plenty on Canadians look like the people in that picture.

I'm American, born in Detroit, and I look like the people in that picture. Yet somehow all the people who claim not to care about race, only immigration, assume i'm not American. I wonder why.

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Anonymous wrote:I just checked this thread again and saw that people think Im Steve Miller's wife? Okay first of all no, I'm drastically out of his league. Second of all, just no. I'm a rando who believes everything that I wrote, as many people on the right do- we are becoming very concerned about left wing terrorism and the dehumanizing rhetoric (calling everyone Hitler, Nazi, fascist, etc) that appears to be fueling the violence. No one is a fascist, no one is going to trap you in the US (trust me, youre welcome to leave), no one is going to kill you or put you in a concentration camp. So don't kill us, please. Good night.

lol dude. Who is engaging masked thugs to kidnap hardworking people and send them to gulags? Maybe stop acting fascist and you’ll stop being called that.

Okay, so your position is that a policeman covering his face is just like murdering 6 million people and starting a world war.

It's like you guys have never spent a day outside the US in your life. Police overseas, including Europe where you all want to move, routinely wear masks for similar operations. Calm down.

It’s not NOT fascism tho.

Covering your face isn't fascism. It may not be the best community policing practice, but it's not a signal that we are about to have a West Germany style break with the western world. Who, by the way, allow their police to cover their faces in similar circumstances.

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this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Trumps policies with respect to immigration are actually terrible for college students.

Instead of eliminating h1B1 program he grandfathered in everyone AND made it so it’s only worth doing for higher paid employees (don’t we want Americans doing those jobs?) and he made it possible for 600,000 chinese nationals to study at American universities. I don’t know about you but I haven’t worked hard so that my kids can be replaced with the largely domestic workers and manual laborers that ICE is deporting while actively working to undermine the middle and upper class through cheap foreign labor.

Thank you. Why don’t people see this?

People do, and it's controversial in maga circles. But the left keeps the level of public discourse at "you're a racist if you don't believe in open borders" so the left can't muddy the waters by expressing any contrary opinions about a policy that brings in more immigrants. For the left to criticize this Trump policy is to admit that immigration may not always be an unalloyed good.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Trumps policies with respect to immigration are actually terrible for college students.

Instead of eliminating h1B1 program he grandfathered in everyone AND made it so it’s only worth doing for higher paid employees (don’t we want Americans doing those jobs?) and he made it possible for 600,000 chinese nationals to study at American universities. I don’t know about you but I haven’t worked hard so that my kids can be replaced with the largely domestic workers and manual laborers that ICE is deporting while actively working to undermine the middle and upper class through cheap foreign labor.

Thank you. Why don’t people see this?

thank you. Why don't Democrats see this and do something?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Trumps policies with respect to immigration are actually terrible for college students.

Instead of eliminating h1B1 program he grandfathered in everyone AND made it so it’s only worth doing for higher paid employees (don’t we want Americans doing those jobs?) and he made it possible for 600,000 chinese nationals to study at American universities. I don’t know about you but I haven’t worked hard so that my kids can be replaced with the largely domestic workers and manual laborers that ICE is deporting while actively working to undermine the middle and upper class through cheap foreign labor.

Thank you. Why don’t people see this?

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Anonymous wrote:I just checked this thread again and saw that people think Im Steve Miller's wife? Okay first of all no, I'm drastically out of his league. Second of all, just no. I'm a rando who believes everything that I wrote, as many people on the right do- we are becoming very concerned about left wing terrorism and the dehumanizing rhetoric (calling everyone Hitler, Nazi, fascist, etc) that appears to be fueling the violence. No one is a fascist, no one is going to trap you in the US (trust me, youre welcome to leave), no one is going to kill you or put you in a concentration camp. So don't kill us, please. Good night.

lol dude. Who is engaging masked thugs to kidnap hardworking people and send them to gulags? Maybe stop acting fascist and you’ll stop being called that.

Okay, so your position is that a policeman covering his face is just like murdering 6 million people and starting a world war.

It's like you guys have never spent a day outside the US in your life. Police overseas, including Europe where you all want to move, routinely wear masks for similar operations. Calm down.

It’s not NOT fascism tho.

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this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Ah yes, the ole "Great Replacement Theory" to justify white supremacy tactics.

anyone that has worked in IT has seen the replacement in action. only a fool or the investor class act ignorant.

https://x.com/LawSelfDefense/status/1965210030120026533

Republicans were responsible for a lot of the H1-B stuff. And who benefited? Elon Musk, Peter Thiel etc.

And now Republicans are making it even worse for the US IT sector by attacking and undermining universities that produce American STEM grads.

Republicans / Trump are attacking universities that import millions of foreign students instead of helping US students.

Trying to fix decades of abuse

"Upcoming labor market shortages will devastate Science and Engineering"

This was a mantra heard through much of the 1980s. And yet, the predicted “seller’s market” for talent never materialized as unemployment rates actually spiked for newly minted PhDs in technical fields. In fact, most US economists seemed to think that the very idea of labor market shortages hardly made sense in a market economy since wages could simply rise to attract more entrants. Yet we have had workers visas for over 34 years to alleviate mythical worker shortages.

In the late nineties, in the course of research into immigration, I became convinced that our US high skilled immigration policy simply did not add up intellectually. As I studied the situation, it became increasingly clear that the groups purporting to speak for US scientists in Washington DC (e.g. NSF, NAS, AAU, GUIRR) actually viewed themselves as advocates for employers in a labor dispute with working scientists and were focused on undermining scientists’ economic bargaining power through labor market intervention and manipulation.

Increasingly the research seemed to show that interventions by government, universities and industry in the US labor market for scientists, especially after the University system stopped growing organically in the early 1970s were exceedingly problematic. By 1998, it was becoming obvious that the real problems of high skilled immigration were actually rather well understood by an entire class of policy actors who were not forthcoming about the levers of policy they were using to influence policy. The NSF/NAS/GUIRR complex appeared to be feigning incompetence by issuing labor market studies that blatantly ignored wages and market dynamics and instead focused on demographics alone.

During the late 1990s I became convinced that in order to orchestrate lower wages for scientists, there would have to have been a competent economic study done to guide the curious policy choices that had resulted in the flooded market for STEM PhDs. For this theory to be correct, the private economic study would have had to have been done studying both supply and demand so that the demand piece could later be removed, resulting in the bizarre ‘supply only’ demographic studies released to the public. Through a bit of economic detective work, I began a painstaking search of the literature and discovered just such a study immediately preceded the release of the foolish demography studies that provided the public justification for the Immigration Act of 1990. This needle was located in the haystack of documents the NSF was forced to turn over when the House investigated the NSF for faking alarms about a shortfall.

The title of this study was “The Pipeline For Scientific and Technical Personnel: Past Lessons Applied to Future Changes of Interest to Policy-Makers and Human Resource Specialists.” The study was undated and carried no author’s name. Eventually I gathered my courage to call up the National Science Foundation and demand to speak to the study’s author. After some hemming and hawing, I was put through to a voice belonging to a man I had never heard of named Myles Boylan. In our conversation, it became clear that it was produced in 1986, as predicted, immediately before the infamous and now disgraced demographic shortfall studies.

The author turned out, again as predicted, not to be a demographer, but a highly competent Ph.D. in economics who was fully aware of the functioning of the wage mechanism. But, as the study makes clear, the problem being solved was not a problem of talent but one of price: scientific employers had become alarmed that they would have to pay competitive market wages to US Ph.D.s with other options.

The study’s aim was not to locate talent but to weaken its ability to bargain with employers by using foreign labor to undermine the ability to negotiate for new Ph.D.s

That study was a key link in a chain of evidence leading to an entirely different view of the real origins of the Immigration Act of 1990s and the H1-B visa classification. In this alternative account, American industry and Big Science convinced official Washington to put in place a series of policies that had little to do with any demographic concerns. Their aims instead were to keep American scientific employers from having to pay the full US market price of high skilled labor. They hoped to keep the US research system staffed with employees classified as “trainees,” “students,” and “post-docs” for the benefit of employers. The result would be to render the US scientific workforce more docile and pliable to authority and senior researchers by attempting to ensure this labor market sector is always flooded largely by employer-friendly visa holders who lack full rights to respond to wage signals in the US labor market.

The correlate of these objectives were shifts in orientation toward building bridges to Asia and especially China, so that senior scientists, technologists, and educators could capitalize on technological, employment, and business opportunities from Asian (and particularly Chinese) expansion. This, in turn, would give US scientific employers and researchers access to the products of Asian educational systems which stress drill, rote learning, obedience, and test driven competition while giving them relief from US models which comparatively stress greater creativity, questioning, independence, and irreverence for authority.

I wrote this up in a study that the National Bureau of Economic Research published. Until a few weeks ago, it was available on their website. With other studies now appearing that are consonant with my conclusions and the Trump administration studying a possible revision of legislation on visas, I am grateful for INET’s encouragement and willingness to republish my study.

https://users.nber.org/~sewp/references/archive/weinsteinhowandwhygovernment.pdf

repeal H1b and OPT and US students will flock to STEM careers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Trumps policies with respect to immigration are actually terrible for college students.

Instead of eliminating h1B1 program he grandfathered in everyone AND made it so it’s only worth doing for higher paid employees (don’t we want Americans doing those jobs?) and he made it possible for 600,000 chinese nationals to study at American universities. I don’t know about you but I haven’t worked hard so that my kids can be replaced with the largely domestic workers and manual laborers that ICE is deporting while actively working to undermine the middle and upper class through cheap foreign labor.

Exactly. Republicans are incredibly two-faced on this issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

this is what we are fighting against.

until our gov focuses on helping US workers before the rest of the world, our fight will not stop.

Ah yes, the ole "Great Replacement Theory" to justify white supremacy tactics.

anyone that has worked in IT has seen the replacement in action. only a fool or the investor class act ignorant.

https://x.com/LawSelfDefense/status/1965210030120026533

Republicans were responsible for a lot of the H1-B stuff. And who benefited? Elon Musk, Peter Thiel etc.

And now Republicans are making it even worse for the US IT sector by attacking and undermining universities that produce American STEM grads.