Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I lived in the south for a while and I was judged for wearing blue jeans, for not being girly enough, not being “sweet” enough, not wearing the same clothes as everyone else, not having been in a sorority, for eating normal portions of flavorful food, for not being related to anyone they deemed valuable to their social circles, not being “from there”, not being WASPy enough, for being “too” independent and for not not going to church.
I guess that’s just the way people are, OP. But we do have country clubs here. Good luck getting off the waitlist.
+1
The above is my firsthand impression of the south after having to work in Dallas for a few years.
Most never leave, it’s kind of sad. I even saw high school grads, boys or and girls, try college at Ohio State or at Amherst and transfer to SMU or TCU sophomore year. That was weird. Many seem to lean heavily on family or regional connections to do anything.
Same. At work, a partner asked a young intern who had been working in the office for a couple weeks, “who are you?”, and she, who was from the north but spending the summer with extended family, was confused because he knew her name and that she was an intern. So she awkwardly stated the obvious to the partner “I’m Larla.” I laughed and said “he means who’s your daddy? Who are you related to?” Because the assumption is that most people are hired for their relationships, not their resume.
They do know that that just makes them look like they can’t survive or compete outside of their nepo bubble. Right?
I mean, if you can’t hack college outside of the south, getting a national level competitive job, or proving your work yourself, you just fight for more nepotism and BS. I guess all the transplant people and companies still make up it, because there’s no growth selling to your buddies who sell to you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some folks in DC are intellectual snobs who look down on any state that is not on either coast and on all religion. I’m a liberal church goer who grew up in “fly-over” country. I do sometime take offense at generalizations that come out of folks mouths. Honestly, I think you need to be yourself, and understand that the intellectual elite often lack perspective and real world experience with ppl different from themselves. But that’s not everyone by a long shot! There is an us vs them mentality that some liberals adopt that leads them to put all conservatives or southerners in a box that assumes there is no variation in their point of view. And the Elitism is insane (“they’re voting against their own interests” without any sense that maybe a white lady in Bethesda doesn’t know what the interests of a Latino man in Texas are)
Have you found a church community here? My one piece of advice would be to try to be more direct then southerners often are. Folks here lack patience for the indirect signals and pleasantries and want you to say what you mean and get to the point. You might also want to practice a couple of one-liners that calls ppl out for any sort of anti-south bias.
This is wrong. It's not an us vs them. DC is snobbish to ANYONE they believe is not as educated or doesn't have credentials. Doesn't matter where they are from.
Anonymous wrote:I moved here about 5 years ago and low key feel like my coworkers tolerate me but judge the fact that I’m from the south. I’ve only worked in corporate jobs, and never talk about politics, but identify as right of center but I don’t really like Trump and don’t feel comfortable talking about politics. I feel like I have to hide the fact that I’m a southern sorority girl that did a debutante ball, goes to church and country clubs ect even though they people I work with grew up upper middle class too. I’ve also scrubbed my social media of all the fraternity formal date pics and things like that after some snarky comments.
I’d just love to understand why people are so judgemental. My experience has always been that people in my life and hometown are kind and polite, so would love some honest feedback about what people think here about southern women and how I can appear more approachable while staying true to myself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some folks in DC are intellectual snobs who look down on any state that is not on either coast and on all religion. I’m a liberal church goer who grew up in “fly-over” country. I do sometime take offense at generalizations that come out of folks mouths. Honestly, I think you need to be yourself, and understand that the intellectual elite often lack perspective and real world experience with ppl different from themselves. But that’s not everyone by a long shot! There is an us vs them mentality that some liberals adopt that leads them to put all conservatives or southerners in a box that assumes there is no variation in their point of view. And the Elitism is insane (“they’re voting against their own interests” without any sense that maybe a white lady in Bethesda doesn’t know what the interests of a Latino man in Texas are)
Have you found a church community here? My one piece of advice would be to try to be more direct then southerners often are. Folks here lack patience for the indirect signals and pleasantries and want you to say what you mean and get to the point. You might also want to practice a couple of one-liners that calls ppl out for any sort of anti-south bias.
This is wrong. It's not an us vs them. DC is snobbish to ANYONE they believe is not as educated or doesn't have credentials. Doesn't matter where they are from.
And you assume the OP didn’t go to Vanderbilt? Why?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some folks in DC are intellectual snobs who look down on any state that is not on either coast and on all religion. I’m a liberal church goer who grew up in “fly-over” country. I do sometime take offense at generalizations that come out of folks mouths. Honestly, I think you need to be yourself, and understand that the intellectual elite often lack perspective and real world experience with ppl different from themselves. But that’s not everyone by a long shot! There is an us vs them mentality that some liberals adopt that leads them to put all conservatives or southerners in a box that assumes there is no variation in their point of view. And the Elitism is insane (“they’re voting against their own interests” without any sense that maybe a white lady in Bethesda doesn’t know what the interests of a Latino man in Texas are)
Have you found a church community here? My one piece of advice would be to try to be more direct then southerners often are. Folks here lack patience for the indirect signals and pleasantries and want you to say what you mean and get to the point. You might also want to practice a couple of one-liners that calls ppl out for any sort of anti-south bias.
This is wrong. It's not an us vs them. DC is snobbish to ANYONE they believe is not as educated or doesn't have credentials. Doesn't matter where they are from.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I lived in the south for a while and I was judged for wearing blue jeans, for not being girly enough, not being “sweet” enough, not wearing the same clothes as everyone else, not having been in a sorority, for eating normal portions of flavorful food, for not being related to anyone they deemed valuable to their social circles, not being “from there”, not being WASPy enough, for being “too” independent and for not not going to church.
I guess that’s just the way people are, OP. But we do have country clubs here. Good luck getting off the waitlist.
+1
The above is my firsthand impression of the south after having to work in Dallas for a few years.
Most never leave, it’s kind of sad. I even saw high school grads, boys or and girls, try college at Ohio State or at Amherst and transfer to SMU or TCU sophomore year. That was weird. Many seem to lean heavily on family or regional connections to do anything.
Same. At work, a partner asked a young intern who had been working in the office for a couple weeks, “who are you?”, and she, who was from the north but spending the summer with extended family, was confused because he knew her name and that she was an intern. So she awkwardly stated the obvious to the partner “I’m Larla.” I laughed and said “he means who’s your daddy? Who are you related to?” Because the assumption is that most people are hired for their relationships, not their resume.
They do know that that just makes them look like they can’t survive or compete outside of their nepo bubble. Right?
I mean, if you can’t hack college outside of the south, getting a national level competitive job, or proving your work yourself, you just fight for more nepotism and BS. I guess all the transplant people and companies still make up it, because there’s no growth selling to your buddies who sell to you.
Anonymous wrote:Some folks in DC are intellectual snobs who look down on any state that is not on either coast and on all religion. I’m a liberal church goer who grew up in “fly-over” country. I do sometime take offense at generalizations that come out of folks mouths. Honestly, I think you need to be yourself, and understand that the intellectual elite often lack perspective and real world experience with ppl different from themselves. But that’s not everyone by a long shot! There is an us vs them mentality that some liberals adopt that leads them to put all conservatives or southerners in a box that assumes there is no variation in their point of view. And the Elitism is insane (“they’re voting against their own interests” without any sense that maybe a white lady in Bethesda doesn’t know what the interests of a Latino man in Texas are)
Have you found a church community here? My one piece of advice would be to try to be more direct then southerners often are. Folks here lack patience for the indirect signals and pleasantries and want you to say what you mean and get to the point. You might also want to practice a couple of one-liners that calls ppl out for any sort of anti-south bias.
Anonymous wrote:I moved here about 5 years ago and low key feel like my coworkers tolerate me but judge the fact that I’m from the south. I’ve only worked in corporate jobs, and never talk about politics, but identify as right of center but I don’t really like Trump and don’t feel comfortable talking about politics. I feel like I have to hide the fact that I’m a southern sorority girl that did a debutante ball, goes to church and country clubs ect even though they people I work with grew up upper middle class too. I’ve also scrubbed my social media of all the fraternity formal date pics and things like that after some snarky comments.
I’d just love to understand why people are so judgemental. My experience has always been that people in my life and hometown are kind and polite, so would love some honest feedback about what people think here about southern women and how I can appear more approachable while staying true to myself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I lived in the south for a while and I was judged for wearing blue jeans, for not being girly enough, not being “sweet” enough, not wearing the same clothes as everyone else, not having been in a sorority, for eating normal portions of flavorful food, for not being related to anyone they deemed valuable to their social circles, not being “from there”, not being WASPy enough, for being “too” independent and for not not going to church.
I guess that’s just the way people are, OP. But we do have country clubs here. Good luck getting off the waitlist.
+1
The above is my firsthand impression of the south after having to work in Dallas for a few years.
Most never leave, it’s kind of sad. I even saw high school grads, boys or and girls, try college at Ohio State or at Amherst and transfer to SMU or TCU sophomore year. That was weird. Many seem to lean heavily on family or regional connections to do anything.
Same. At work, a partner asked a young intern who had been working in the office for a couple weeks, “who are you?”, and she, who was from the north but spending the summer with extended family, was confused because he knew her name and that she was an intern. So she awkwardly stated the obvious to the partner “I’m Larla.” I laughed and said “he means who’s your daddy? Who are you related to?” Because the assumption is that most people are hired for their relationships, not their resume.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I lived in the south for a while and I was judged for wearing blue jeans, for not being girly enough, not being “sweet” enough, not wearing the same clothes as everyone else, not having been in a sorority, for eating normal portions of flavorful food, for not being related to anyone they deemed valuable to their social circles, not being “from there”, not being WASPy enough, for being “too” independent and for not not going to church.
I guess that’s just the way people are, OP. But we do have country clubs here. Good luck getting off the waitlist.
+1
The above is my firsthand impression of the south after having to work in Dallas for a few years.
Most never leave, it’s kind of sad. I even saw high school grads, boys or and girls, try college at Ohio State or at Amherst and transfer to SMU or TCU sophomore year. That was weird. Many seem to lean heavily on family or regional connections to do anything.
Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure most DC folks don’t think anything about southern women, like don’t really think about them at all. And certainly don’t group all southern women together as one stereotype. OP- your question is odd? Why do you think you think in terms of vast stereotypes? Why do you think all DC women would have the same thought about all women from the southern U.S.?