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Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

The vibe here is similar to one that we got at Swarthmore.

Can you say more about this?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

This comes up very often as a negative for certain elite schools. I'm not sure what the arguments is unless it's for an easy A. I want my scientists, doctors, and engineers to have actually worked hard in a competitive environment and risen to the top.

This. I don't understand why people have an issue with these "intense" environments. The kids who apply to these schools obviously know about how academically intense they are- JHU, MIT, CalTech, Princeton, etc. It's a good thing for society to have people who thrive in these environments. These are going to be the best of the best in the medical, engineering, CS fields; and why wouldn't we want people like that. Just because the rest of us can't relate, it doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

This comes up very often as a negative for certain elite schools. I'm not sure what the arguments is unless it's for an easy A. I want my scientists, doctors, and engineers to have actually worked hard in a competitive environment and risen to the top.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

The vibe here is similar to one that we got at Swarthmore.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's how total enrollment stands across the ivies for comparison:

https://www.collegexpress.com/lists/list/ivy-league-colleges-ranked-by-percentage-of-undergraduates-to-total-enrollment/265/

This is not useful info to you unless you know how many of these are physically present on the undergraduate campuses. Some schools have more professional development graduate programs than others, e.g. school of education, etc but they are not on the undergraduate campuses. Harvard, for example, does not have 20K grad students milling about.

Anonymous wrote:Here's how total enrollment stands across the ivies for comparison:

https://www.collegexpress.com/lists/list/ivy-league-colleges-ranked-by-percentage-of-undergraduates-to-total-enrollment/265/

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Anonymous wrote:JHU has a huge number of graduate students. Over 17000 graduate students.

This is ridiculous. JHU has many grad students as well as many campuses in different locations and separate professional degree programs that don’t interact with the liberal arts or engineering departments at the Homewood campus. The undergrads are only at the Homewood campus. There are not 17,000+ grad students at the Homewood campus so your undergrad students will never see most of these.

They will see about 40% of them, constantly hanging around — a number equal or greater than the number of undergrads. It’s a small campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins does not have 17000 grad students. It has 8,500, only 2000 of which are on the undergrad campus. There are roughly 6300 undergraduates at the Homewood campus, so they clearly dominate the campus. Some of you are allergic to facts. People pursuing online executive certificate programs are not graduate students nor are they on a campus.

You are wrong on so many levels. Presumably, you can read: 24000 grad students. The 17k is without the certificate programs.
Here’s the cite: https://oira.jhu.edu/graduate-enrollment-and-degrees/

Incidentally, grad enrollment has increased 50% the last 10 years…

There are still only 2000 graduate students at Homewood, Hopkins may count online executive program students as “graduate” students, but they still are not stepping foot on a campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins does not have 17000 grad students. It has 8,500, only 2000 of which are on the undergrad campus. There are roughly 6300 undergraduates at the Homewood campus, so they clearly dominate the campus. Some of you are allergic to facts. People pursuing online executive certificate programs are not graduate students nor are they on a campus.

You are wrong on so many levels. Presumably, you can read: 24000 grad students. The 17k is without the certificate programs.
Here’s the cite: https://oira.jhu.edu/graduate-enrollment-and-degrees/

Incidentally, grad enrollment has increased 50% the last 10 years…

There are still only 2000 graduate students at Homewood, Hopkins may count online executive program students as “graduate” students, but they still are not stepping foot on a campus.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins does not have 17000 grad students. It has 8,500, only 2000 of which are on the undergrad campus. There are roughly 6300 undergraduates at the Homewood campus, so they clearly dominate the campus. Some of you are allergic to facts. People pursuing online executive certificate programs are not graduate students nor are they on a campus.

You are wrong on so many levels. Presumably, you can read: 24000 grad students. The 17k is without the certificate programs.
Here’s the cite: https://oira.jhu.edu/graduate-enrollment-and-degrees/

Incidentally, grad enrollment has increased 50% the last 10 years…

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins does not have 17000 grad students. It has 8,500, only 2000 of which are on the undergrad campus. There are roughly 6300 undergraduates at the Homewood campus, so they clearly dominate the campus. Some of you are allergic to facts. People pursuing online executive certificate programs are not graduate students nor are they on a campus.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

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Anonymous wrote:JHU has a huge number of graduate students. Over 17000 graduate students.

Actually this is part of the problem (excluding the online ones). It’s Baltimore. Resident grad students hang out and study on campus. They crowed the small campus spaces and permeate the culture of the school in a way that graduate students at Harvard, say, do not.