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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

You didn’t read the article you posted then. Because it clearly references him pleading guilty to violent acts. People who didn’t commit violent acts don’t plead guilty to them. UK of all places has cameras everywhere.

You have never had any experience in the legal system then.

Also, you can go to prison for words in the USA, called "assault". Sounds violent right? Laws are made to create fear in the populace.

In what state to you go to prison for verbal assault?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean what did she expect. Her whole reason for wearing that was to insult/offend. They have laws against offending their religion. I don’t think insulting religions is free speech. It’s hate and all hate speech (racism,xenophobia,bigotry,etc) should not be tolerated.

She is trying to bring attention to how oppressive the laws are. By bringing attention she hopes to change them. People should not be jailed for using words, not matter how distasteful you find them. She actually didn’t say anything hateful.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

You didn’t read the article you posted then. Because it clearly references him pleading guilty to violent acts. People who didn’t commit violent acts don’t plead guilty to them. UK of all places has cameras everywhere.

You have never had any experience in the legal system then.

Also, you can go to prison for words in the USA, called "assault". Sounds violent right? Laws are made to create fear in the populace.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

You didn’t read the article you posted then. Because it clearly references him pleading guilty to violent acts. People who didn’t commit violent acts don’t plead guilty to them. UK of all places has cameras everywhere.

Anonymous wrote:I mean what did she expect. Her whole reason for wearing that was to insult/offend. They have laws against offending their religion. I don’t think insulting religions is free speech. It’s hate and all hate speech (racism,xenophobia,bigotry,etc) should not be tolerated.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Muslim, but that was distasteful of her to wear that shirt. This was not "just her wearing a tshirt," this is her traveling to another country trying to offend people.

Who cares if it was distasteful? She should not be in prison for daring to say them.

you can also go to jail for saying that Hitler was right on your t-shirt in many countries. Lost of germans actually believe this is true, but they cannot say it. Every country doesn't have the first & 2nd amendment. I think that this woman (im muslim) should've been left alone b/c she is just being dumb and honestly from the Sunnah of the Holy prophet there isn punishment for blasphemy- there is no punishment for saying "blasphemous" stuff in Islam this is some stupid shit we picked up from Christianity but I find it amusing that the daily mail gets SOOO offended when Muslim or just non-white countries punish expel for breaking their laws. there was another article about a girl who was going to prison for having cocaine (!!!) in Dubai (!!! what the off did she think was going to happen- it is a no tolerance for drugs policy state) and the DM was SOOO offended. If people fleeing the Taliban for helping the USA can be put in jail for not having the right papers in the USA then people who have cocaine can go to jail and people who have the wrong message on their clothing for that matter. It's all writing right- the writing in the t-shirt was wrong, the writing on the visa was 5 years, not 10??

You dont get to come here, enjoy all of the protections of the US Constitution, and then make fun of her for fighting to have the same rights in her own country. Why did you leave if you loved being a second class citizen so much? DO BETTER.

you know what- mea culpa. I did not realize that she was Moroccan- good for her. I support people fighting for these same protections in their own countries. I DO NOT support people going to other countries and not respecting the customs and laws.

I also think what she said is stupid & won't actually change the needle amongst her pwn people- she could have said something substantive instead. I mean Allah can't be a lesbian, she could have said Allah loves lesbians and that would have made an actual point. This way she just seem like an a&&hole. the above example about hitler was just the most hateful and vile statement I could think of off the top of my head that would still be protected speech in the USA but not protected speech in France/germany. someone within a culture fighting for rights will always have my support but someone advocating fr US style freedom of speech is an outlier b/c no-one else has that much leeway in speech. MLK wasn't just spouting off some nonsense- he was actually advocating for something substantive and real and promised within the context of his culture and country. Does she just want freedom to say whatever stupid shit b/c pretty much the USA is the outlier in having that right- there is no other country that has the same freedom of speech laws that we enjoy. maybe start with baby steps since most people think that our bill of rights is horrific nonsense, even our allies. I live in europe right now and people roll their eyes so hard when they hear an american talk about blah blah amendment. the majority of people don't admire our freedom of speech laws, they think our bill of rights is dumb.

Who gets to decide what's stupid shit and what's important, meaningful speach? Just because you found this particular message dumb it doesn't make it so. She is fighting for her right to say it in the first place. Considering the international attention she brought onto herself, I'd say she was fairly effective.

Plenty of Moroccans are sick of living the way they do. A good friend of mine, a man, is going through the asylum process here in the US because he was discriminated against so much for not being a Muslim.

I grew up in Europe and you're full of shit that they roll their eyes. Europeans very much value and excercise their freedom of speech. But also, she is fighting not just for the freedom of speech but for the mere right of certain peopel to exist.

NP, oh please, Europeans do not have full free speech either. I dare you to say the holocaust never happened and see how many months of jail time you get. You can’t knowingly break a rule then be surprised when there are consequences. Their country, their rules. I don’t see any basic human rights violations here either. She’s not being tortured. She did something against the law and has to serve jail time. As if our laws are perfect. Smh

Show me one example of someone being jailed in the EU for saying that the Holocaust wasn't real.

How high and mighty of you to spew that nonsense while proudly being able to say it in the first place.

It is her country and she has every right to demand change for human rights violations.

David Irving.

His veered so hard into hate speech that I’m not sure you could compare these two individuals, but sure, I guess technically you are right.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

You didn’t read the article you posted then. Because it clearly references him pleading guilty to violent acts. People who didn’t commit violent acts don’t plead guilty to them. UK of all places has cameras everywhere.

He pled guilty to “violent disorder”. In the UK, that includes language and threats, not actual violence. There is no evidence that he was actually violent or caused property damage. He was jailed for being “hostile to Islam”.

He was in a group of peopel who were violent. He was making threats. That is not the same as a woman simply wearing a shirt.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

You didn’t read the article you posted then. Because it clearly references him pleading guilty to violent acts. People who didn’t commit violent acts don’t plead guilty to them. UK of all places has cameras everywhere.

He pled guilty to “violent disorder”. In the UK, that includes language and threats, not actual violence. There is no evidence that he was actually violent or caused property damage. He was jailed for being “hostile to Islam”.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

You didn’t read the article you posted then. Because it clearly references him pleading guilty to violent acts. People who didn’t commit violent acts don’t plead guilty to them. UK of all places has cameras everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.

Nothing in that article says he was violent or caused property damage. He engaged verbally and said rude things about Islam.

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Anonymous wrote:Morocco is a developed and moderate, generally-tolerant country.

Surprised at the harshness in this case. It does not seem fair.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15103943/Woman-jailed-30-months-wearing-Allah-lesbian-T-shirt.html

You think Freedom of Speech is everywhere?! lol.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy in the UK just got 30 months for showing “hostility towards Islam”. It’s not just dangerous in Muslim countries anymore.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jail-bullish-man-who-chanted-32475579?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Sounds like that guy was actually violent. Not the same thing.