Anonymous wrote:any athlete who has the academic chops to get into the upper Nescac schools would prefer to be at an ivy league- they just weren’t good enough at their sport to get recruited. Nescac is the land of failed ivy wannabees. I think most would choose the dregs of the ivy - Cornell - over Amherst and Williams

Lighten up Francis.

Anonymous wrote:apologize in advance as seems like there has been a preponderance of SLAC posts lately lol, so here’s another! My athlete DC is strongly considering ED’ing at Lafayette, Bucknell, and several Nescacs with coach support, and trying to evaluate academic reputation and outcomes to compare options.

My tiering of Nescac based on these aspects is as follows: Amherst/Williams; Bowdoin/Middlebury; Wesleyan/Hamilton/Tufts: Colby/Bates; Ct College / Trinity.

I think Lafayette best compares to Hamilton in terms of tiering / academic reputation/ outcomes. Agree or disagree? And if DC was able to get $25k in merit at Lafayette, does that make it a no brainer vs Bucknell and Nescac peers? thanks all in advance

I think there was a no confidence vote in the President of Lafayette by the faculty in the past year…. The facilities could use some attention. It’s a strong school that is going through a tough time.

No one is turning down an Ivy unless they prefer sleepy Williamstown.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s face it the NESCAC is Williams and Amherst. Only 2 with any prestige.

agree but kids are only even there for the most part because their ivy aspirations were derailed -

Haha, not!

Anonymous wrote:Let’s face it the NESCAC is Williams and Amherst. Only 2 with any prestige.

agree but kids are only even there for the most part because their ivy aspirations were derailed -

Let’s face it the NESCAC is Williams and Amherst. Only 2 with any prestige.

Anonymous wrote:any athlete who has the academic chops to get into the upper Nescac schools would prefer to be at an ivy league- they just weren’t good enough at their sport to get recruited. Nescac is the land of failed ivy wannabees. I think most would choose the dregs of the ivy - Cornell - over Amherst and Williams

Unlike you, not every student is an Ivy whore. Truly intelligent students can decide for themselves which college is best for them.
With your reasoning, every top non-Ivy student is an Ivy reject. Projecting out your thinking further, all Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown and Penn students are HYP rejects. LAC students have different priorities.

Anonymous wrote:Who cares about the NESCAC. Agree Ivy rejects.

agree, except Cornell - would take Amherst or Williams over Cornell

Who cares about the NESCAC. Agree Ivy rejects.

Anonymous wrote:Try as they have for many months, Midd boosters can’t face the facts. Your school Middlebury is no longer in the same grouping of Amherst, Willams, or now Bowdoin. Its endowment is half of the other three schools. Applications have dropped at Midd and they had a financial deficit. Don’t need to hear the same rebuttal that a grad from the 70’s is the COO of some bank who cares. Times have changed agree with several others Colby, Hamilton, Midd, and Bates are interchangeable. Have not any interest in these small, remote schools with horrible weather and no location diversity as in host towns. These are not Ute 60s and 70s when those schools plateaued. They appeal to a small full pay private school clientele whose kids can’t get into the Ivies, Duke, and Stanford.

There’s only one ranking where Middlebury has fallen, and that’s USNews. And that’s mainly because they changed their methodology. In their financial resources calculation, they’re now including 2,000+ summer language school kids and other non-degree seeking students at other Midd programs. IPEDs now says Middlebury has 4,800+ students. Forbes is using the same numbers.

https://www.forbes.com/colleges/middlebury-college/

These programs are unique to Middlebury among NESCACs.

The fact that Midd is now closing the money-losing MIIS is a step in the right direction for balancing the budget.

any athlete who has the academic chops to get into the upper Nescac schools would prefer to be at an ivy league- they just weren’t good enough at their sport to get recruited. Nescac is the land of failed ivy wannabees. I think most would choose the dregs of the ivy - Cornell - over Amherst and Williams

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Anonymous wrote:If you are into prestige - Bates, Colby, Lafayette, Bucknell are all right with one another. It’s insane to argue that any one is more prestigious than the other. These are expensive schools for wealthy kids who can’t get into higher ranked schools. Not slighting the schools themselves or the kids. These are the schools you look at when your private kid has a 3.3-3.5 GPA and are full pay. 100 percent the truth.

yes. 100% true from the private my senior attends. This is your 3.3-3.6 crowd.
Hamilton, Middlebury, Bowdoin are the next tier (3.75-3.85) Williams and Amherst are just slightly above that. (3.9)

What if you have a 3.65 35 ACT kid, this is the hardest kid to find a home for, and it's mine, sigh.

Good private, full pay fyi

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Anonymous wrote:If you are into prestige - Bates, Colby, Lafayette, Bucknell are all right with one another. It’s insane to argue that any one is more prestigious than the other. These are expensive schools for wealthy kids who can’t get into higher ranked schools. Not slighting the schools themselves or the kids. These are the schools you look at when your private kid has a 3.3-3.5 GPA and are full pay. 100 percent the truth.

yes. 100% true from the private my senior attends. This is your 3.3-3.6 crowd.
Hamilton, Middlebury, Bowdoin are the next tier (3.75-3.85) Williams and Amherst are just slightly above that. (3.9)

What if you have a 3.65 35 ACT kid, this is the hardest kid to find a home for, and it's mine, sigh.

Try as they have for many months, Midd boosters can’t face the facts. Your school Middlebury is no longer in the same grouping of Amherst, Willams, or now Bowdoin. Its endowment is half of the other three schools. Applications have dropped at Midd and they had a financial deficit. Don’t need to hear the same rebuttal that a grad from the 70’s is the COO of some bank who cares. Times have changed agree with several others Colby, Hamilton, Midd, and Bates are interchangeable. Have not any interest in these small, remote schools with horrible weather and no location diversity as in host towns. These are not Ute 60s and 70s when those schools plateaued. They appeal to a small full pay private school clientele whose kids can’t get into the Ivies, Duke, and Stanford.

Bowdoin and Middlebury are the same as Amherst and Williams at my DCs DCUM private. All tough and highly sought after admits. Many are dissuaded by guidance counselors from applying, but I feel they are all at the same prestige level and I would gather similar outcomes. Let’s not nit pick here folks - whatever differences exist are likely very small - we aren’t talking about trinity or ct college here.