Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 10:06     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nobody answers the money issue, UT's endowment per capita is clearly out of T50 in U.S, plus tuition is so cheap. How do you do solid research, hire best faculties and build best facilities, labs?


Canadian universities are mostly funded by the government (provincial and federal) rather than private sources.


Does the government, provincial and/or national, get to control the curriculum and course content ?


Not at all. That doesn't happen in Western Europe either.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 10:05     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nobody answers the money issue, UT's endowment per capita is clearly out of T50 in U.S, plus tuition is so cheap. How do you do solid research, hire best faculties and build best facilities, labs?


Canadian universities are mostly funded by the government (provincial and federal) rather than private sources.


Does the government, provincial and/or national, get to control the curriculum and course content ?

No, that's only a (very recent) U.S. thing.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 09:53     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nobody answers the money issue, UT's endowment per capita is clearly out of T50 in U.S, plus tuition is so cheap. How do you do solid research, hire best faculties and build best facilities, labs?


Canadian universities are mostly funded by the government (provincial and federal) rather than private sources.


Does the government, provincial and/or national, get to control the curriculum and course content ?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 09:46     Subject: Re:McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
If they were in the US ? What happened to plans for 51st state status ?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 09:41     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Still nobody answers the money issue, UT's endowment per capita is clearly out of T50 in U.S, plus tuition is so cheap. How do you do solid research, hire best faculties and build best facilities, labs?


Canadian universities are mostly funded by the government (provincial and federal) rather than private sources.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 09:35     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Still nobody answers the money issue, UT's endowment per capita is clearly out of T50 in U.S, plus tuition is so cheap. How do you do solid research, hire best faculties and build best facilities, labs?

I assume no one's answering because no one here knows how exactly the funding model for Canadian universities, from a combination of federal and provincial sources, resembles the funding model for US public universities. U of T does have by far the largest endowment among Canadian universities. And a huge percentage of the students at any Canadian university don't live on campus, making a per-student formula misleading in the context of a US-Canada comparison.

Your question is also weirdly presumptuous. U of T was recently ranked 4th in the world -- behind only Harvard, Stanford, and UCL -- for research impact (https://nturanking.csti.tw/ranking/OverallRanking/), yet you presume that this result must be impossible, given their small per-student endowment. Maybe use the observed result to correct your presumption?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 09:11     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Still nobody answers the money issue, UT's endowment per capita is clearly out of T50 in U.S, plus tuition is so cheap. How do you do solid research, hire best faculties and build best facilities, labs?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 05:13     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In term of admission rate, UT is 40%+, endowment money is 3.5B with 100k students, undergraduate tuition is about USD5000/year.

How could it be in par with T30 schools in U.S, even T50?


For the 80th time, admission rates are totally different in Canada and the UK. They are high because 1) they don’t market to every student with 1100+ SAT to boost applications, app fee revenues and artificially lower acceptance rate to the point where even Northeastern is in the single digit. 2) they publish their admission cutoff scores. For a school like Cambridge or Toronto, it’s probably 95+ and they don’t grade inflate. There are maybe 2-5 kids per HS who are allowed to apply, hence the high acceptance rate.


Absolutely. Plus in the UK you can only apply to five universities in total.

It is idiots like the first poster that ensure that yield management is such a thing in the US. I assure you that it doesn’t make for a great admissions system.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 03:11     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

“Any U.S. student who gets into one of the top Canadian universities would be a fool not to go there.”

Ridiculous statement


Yeah, ok.

Why don’t you try turning off the Fox News cool-aid, PP.


Ridiculous response. Thanks for being consistent.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 03:00     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:not that great high admissions rate, massive school

similar to GMU same idea you can get in but if you pick CS or Engineering it may be harder to graduate. Thats not bad but its no ivy league or top 50 state school.


You’re so wrong, but sure, go ahead and focus on Colgate.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 01:48     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
not that great high admissions rate, massive school

similar to GMU same idea you can get in but if you pick CS or Engineering it may be harder to graduate. Thats not bad but its no ivy league or top 50 state school.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 01:29     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:In term of admission rate, UT is 40%+, endowment money is 3.5B with 100k students, undergraduate tuition is about USD5000/year.

How could it be in par with T30 schools in U.S, even T50?


For the 80th time, admission rates are totally different in Canada and the UK. They are high because 1) they don’t market to every student with 1100+ SAT to boost applications, app fee revenues and artificially lower acceptance rate to the point where even Northeastern is in the single digit. 2) they publish their admission cutoff scores. For a school like Cambridge or Toronto, it’s probably 95+ and they don’t grade inflate. There are maybe 2-5 kids per HS who are allowed to apply, hence the high acceptance rate.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2025 23:45     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Admission rates are worthless when comparing unis from different countries….

Or are you going to tell me that Northeastern or Tulane is better than Cambridge because their admissions rates are lower?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2025 23:23     Subject: Re:McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Admission rate is one perspective, money is important too.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2025 16:22     Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
I went to a US T20 school and now teach at a US school just barely within the T50. My DC started at U of T this fall, and a younger sibling may also follow that path. In terms of everything that matters to me as a parent, wanting the best education for my child, U of T is easily as good as my alma mater and obviously much better than my current employer. DC chose U of T over several US schools with single-digit acceptance rates; it's silly to focus on that metric in this context -- apples to oranges.

(I'm talking about the St George campus, living in-residence at a college. By DC's account, commuters have a different experience, even at St George, but especially at the satellite campuses.)