Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Israel wanted to commit genocide they would have done it already. Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn’t have elected Hamas to lead them.
Could they have? Are we know cIaiming that the absence of a past genocide is proof that that a current genocide has no intent?
That's a weird argument to make for a variety of reasons. It also ignores the very relevent change in Israeli politics and society since the assasination of Rabin and the political rise of the Kahanists.
Clearly Hamas and the Palestinians (they elected them) didn’t think this through very well when they decided to commit the atrocities of October 7th such as tying Israeli kids up in front of their parents and setting them on fire or slitting their throats.
Collective punishment in the form of genocide is now an acceptable to individual acts of evil?
How do the acts of Kahanist terrorism fit into this theory? When "settlers" burned a baby alive in front of their parents did that not count? When the current Minister of National Security, a convicted terrorist in charge of the police, danced around at a wedding with a picture of the dead baby theatrically stabbing the piece of paper with joyous ferver, did that not count?
When Israel deliberately bombs one of the oldest chruches in the world, when Israel deliberately attacks UN peacekeepers from Ireland and deliberately kills American NGOs is that all part of this "just genocide"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Israel wanted to commit genocide they would have done it already. Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn’t have elected Hamas to lead them.
Could they have? Are we know cIaiming that the absence of a past genocide is proof that that a current genocide has no intent?
That's a weird argument to make for a variety of reasons. It also ignores the very relevent change in Israeli politics and society since the assasination of Rabin and the political rise of the Kahanists.
Clearly Hamas and the Palestinians (they elected them) didn’t think this through very well when they decided to commit the atrocities of October 7th such as tying Israeli kids up in front of their parents and setting them on fire or slitting their throats.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Israel wanted to commit genocide they would have done it already. Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn’t have elected Hamas to lead them.
Could they have? Are we know cIaiming that the absence of a past genocide is proof that that a current genocide has no intent?
That's a weird argument to make for a variety of reasons. It also ignores the very relevent change in Israeli politics and society since the assasination of Rabin and the political rise of the Kahanists.
Clearly Hamas and the Palestinians (they elected them) didn’t think this through very well when they decided to commit the atrocities of October 7th such as tying Israeli kids up in front of their parents and setting them on fire or slitting their throats.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Israel wanted to commit genocide they would have done it already. Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn’t have elected Hamas to lead them.
Could they have? Are we know cIaiming that the absence of a past genocide is proof that that a current genocide has no intent?
That's a weird argument to make for a variety of reasons. It also ignores the very relevent change in Israeli politics and society since the assasination of Rabin and the political rise of the Kahanists.
Clearly Hamas and the Palestinians (they elected them) didn’t think this through very well when they decided to commit the atrocities of October 7th such as tying Israeli kids up in front of their parents and setting them on fire or slitting their throats.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Israel wanted to commit genocide they would have done it already. Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn’t have elected Hamas to lead them.
Could they have? Are we know cIaiming that the absence of a past genocide is proof that that a current genocide has no intent?
That's a weird argument to make for a variety of reasons. It also ignores the very relevent change in Israeli politics and society since the assasination of Rabin and the political rise of the Kahanists.
Anonymous wrote:I'm gonna say Bibi has the intent of destroying a group per his plan of bombing the hell out of all who reside in Gaza aka Palestinians. Not sure PP how you define destroy but for the 99% of pretty much the entire world, that there is not antisemitism when we condemn this plan of the Jews.
Anonymous wrote:If Israel wanted to commit genocide they would have done it already. Perhaps the Palestinians shouldn’t have elected Hamas to lead them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No desire to troll. Is a genuine question. This is what recently happened in Spain. They claim it is a genicide and the Israeli government says that it is antisemitism. Just wanted a fresh perspective from the us. Thank you!
Genocide requires a specific intent to destroy a group. This is hard to square with the existence of Arab Muslims in the knesset, on the bench and in the military. It's brutal. But war is brutal. This is war. A war that Hamas started and that Hamas can end at any time with unconditional surrender.
Until then...FAFO
Anonymous wrote:No desire to troll. Is a genuine question. This is what recently happened in Spain. They claim it is a genicide and the Israeli government says that it is antisemitism. Just wanted a fresh perspective from the us. Thank you!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why should we care what Zionists think about the genocide in Gaza? Do we defer to Nazis when it comes to opinions on the holocaust?
good point. It's like asking Trump to define business ethics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's funny how Israel threw its reputation in the trash so quickly. I don't see how they recover from this on the world stage for a long time to come.
Yes. This. It’s not Hamas’ actions on 10/7 that stirred huge crowds of protesters to waive Palestinian flags, chant anti Zionist slogans, and question Israel’s right to exist. It was Israel’s response to 10/7 with poor scared little girls being gunned down, babies/kids shot in the head, and people in line getting food being slaughtered. I think in the history books it will be clear that Israel stirred up antisemitism rather than defend against it.
Tells you how much Israel has self-sabotaged itself that despite the horrors of 10/7, it has unbelievably managed to make itself the scourge of the earth.
Because it is a country of Jews. You’d think you’d say that Iran or a China or Russia was the scourge of the earth. Very telling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's funny how Israel threw its reputation in the trash so quickly. I don't see how they recover from this on the world stage for a long time to come.
Yes. This. It’s not Hamas’ actions on 10/7 that stirred huge crowds of protesters to waive Palestinian flags, chant anti Zionist slogans, and question Israel’s right to exist. It was Israel’s response to 10/7 with poor scared little girls being gunned down, babies/kids shot in the head, and people in line getting food being slaughtered. I think in the history books it will be clear that Israel stirred up antisemitism rather than defend against it.
Tells you how much Israel has self-sabotaged itself that despite the horrors of 10/7, it has unbelievably managed to make itself the scourge of the earth.