Anonymous
09/04/2025 15:50
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Anonymous
09/04/2025 15:44
Subject: Re:Are they crazy in Florida?
It's insane to take the position of writing off the relatively low number of dead kids by measles when we don't need to have ANY deaths by measles!
And yes, it's not just deaths in the immediate aftermath of infection, it's the long term consequences - there is a horrible brain wasting condition you can develop years after having measles that will slowly liquefy your brain until you die, but which can last years during which your family must care for you and watch you waste away, often at a fairly youthful age.
What kind of person would take these kinds of TOTALLY UNNECESSARY risks with their allegedly beloved child's life?????????????
And yes, it's not just deaths in the immediate aftermath of infection, it's the long term consequences - there is a horrible brain wasting condition you can develop years after having measles that will slowly liquefy your brain until you die, but which can last years during which your family must care for you and watch you waste away, often at a fairly youthful age.
What kind of person would take these kinds of TOTALLY UNNECESSARY risks with their allegedly beloved child's life?????????????
Anonymous
09/04/2025 15:01
Subject: Re:Are they crazy in Florida?
One more reason to vote against the republicans in Florida in 2026. It's a stupid decision.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 12:57
Subject: Re:Are they crazy in Florida?
All deaths that could’ve been prevented by vaccines
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/deaths-due-to-measles-by-region#all-charts
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/deaths-due-to-measles-by-region#all-charts
Anonymous
09/04/2025 12:55
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Hate to interrupt the kvechting, but how about we add some data to this. How many people died of measles in 1960? Pick any other disease you are terrified of and check a year just before the vaccine.
That’s your worst case scenario, which also assumes sanitation, nutrition and medical treatment also rolls back that far.
And lastly, compare those numbers to road deaths.
I can’t find 1960 but in 1980 worldwide 810,000. In the Americas 7000 and in Europe, 10,000.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/deaths-due-to-measles-by-region
Anonymous
09/04/2025 12:47
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Hate to interrupt the kvechting, but how about we add some data to this. How many people died of measles in 1960? Pick any other disease you are terrified of and check a year just before the vaccine.
That’s your worst case scenario, which also assumes sanitation, nutrition and medical treatment also rolls back that far.
And lastly, compare those numbers to road deaths.
Why? The two are very different things and just because the risk of dying from measles is low doesn't mean you shouldn't prevent getting sick if you can. There are negative to illness other than death. No one wants a lengthy hospital stay even if they don't die.
It's like the raw milk debate. Sure if obtained safely the risk of getting sick from raw milk is low. But if milk is contaminated the outcome can be devastating. Just watched a mother crying about how she gave her child raw milk and he was hospitalized and while she herself didn't drink the milk she still got sick while caring for him and had a miscarriage/stillbirth as a result.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 12:45
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Hate to interrupt the kvechting, but how about we add some data to this. How many people died of measles in 1960? Pick any other disease you are terrified of and check a year just before the vaccine.
That’s your worst case scenario, which also assumes sanitation, nutrition and medical treatment also rolls back that far.
And lastly, compare those numbers to road deaths.
You'd want to have information, not just about deaths, but about illnesses, reduced quality of life, and all of the other negative impacts from these diseases beyond death. Against that, you'd want to offset whatever positive effects not getting vaccinated might have.
On the road death side, to the extent you think it's relevant to the vaccine discussion, you'd also want to line up the costs and benefits of driving.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 12:40
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, they are both stupid and crazy. Perhaps Disney World can add "PlagueLand" to its attractions. I really feel for all the innocent kids whose parents are stupid who will die of polio and measles, and particularly for the medically fragile who are unable to get vaccinated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/florida-vaccine-mandates.html
Florida plans to become the first state to end all vaccine mandates, including for schoolchildren, rejecting a practice that public health experts have credited for decades with limiting the spread of infectious diseases.
Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo, the Florida surgeon general, made the announcement on Wednesday alongside Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican. Mr. DeSantis rose to national prominence during the coronavirus pandemic, and over time he has espoused increasingly anti-vaccine views.
“Who am I to tell you what your child should put in their body?” Dr. Ladapo, a vocal denigrator of vaccines, said to applause during an event on Wednesday in Valrico, Fla., near Tampa. “Your body is a gift from God.”
He added that the administration would be “working to end” all vaccine mandates. “Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery,” Dr. Ladapo said.
Florida Says It Plans to End All Vaccine Mandates
The state would be the first to scrap requirements that children be vaccinated to attend school, among other rules.
Dr. Ladapo should lose his medical license. "Who am I to tell you what your child should put in their body?" Sir you are literally a doctor. Are you going to tell your patients to drink bleach?
Stop calling him doctor. He’s just a quack.
He’s the Florida Surgeon general. Until he loses his medical license, he’s a doctor. He is a total quack but so are all these Trump appointees
Even if he has the credential, there's no requirement that you use the honorific. And, given the proposal to make the population sicker, there's a strong case that the honorific shouldn't be used.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 10:26
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
This is what "I know as better as experts" "I did my own research" ultimately leads to.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 09:40
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
They're literally everyone in the world at risk. DUMB AS F!!!
Anonymous
09/04/2025 08:43
Subject: Re:Are they crazy in Florida?
GOP congressmen should be barred from having their own family members vaccinated. They voted for this!
Anonymous
09/04/2025 08:07
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
No, just stupid.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 08:06
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Does this mean they dont legally have to put seatbelts on their children either?
Anonymous
09/04/2025 08:01
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
I wonder what doctors and scientists have to say about this at the University of Florida.
Not everyone in Florida is crazy. People need to speak up.
Exemptions, sure. That gives you freedom. But eliminating mandates, no.
Not everyone in Florida is crazy. People need to speak up.
Exemptions, sure. That gives you freedom. But eliminating mandates, no.
Anonymous
09/04/2025 07:58
Subject: Are they crazy in Florida?
Anonymous wrote:You know how nervous people get when there’s a measles case and they release that the person was at terminal whatever at Dulles?
That’s going to happen at Disney.
They can develop some new attractions for Plague Land.