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Anonymous wrote:My DH quit giving a few years ago. He used to give annually, but the far left control of academia got to be too much for him as a moderate.

He mentioned yesterday that Annual Giving is way down and laughed. FAFO.

It's this!
I went to Occidental College - It went liberal after I left, after decades of strong leadership, Oxy had a weak black president, the faculty gained control over the President and the board, which resulted in some catastrophic financial deicsions, then came a series of poor presidents who couldn't control the lefty faculty, and now the institution is super woke - I haven't givena penny in two decades NOR have my alumni friends (of all political stripes) from those years. Everyone is disgusted at what has happened to our once-upon-a-time "Princeton of the West", which is what Oxy called itself.
My DW went to Carleton College - crazy woke - she doesn't give
My DS went to George Mason, which was hugely DEI while he was there; he lost substantial scholarship opportunities because of it, and now GMU is doing stupid things with SJP. My son doesn't give and never will.
My DD went to UVA and doesn't give because Andrus G. Ashoo, the director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, didn't think she had what it takes to be supported by his office for a major scholarship (uh, like not URM, first generation, etc.). So she did it on her own - went to Oxford for an MPhil; then Oxford offered her a full Scholarship for the DPhil, and she has been accepted by Harvard Law. I doubt she will ever give money to UVA because of how Ashoo treated her.

My message to college presidents is: actions have consequences. Your institutional leadership has failed all of us, your students, your alumni.

Alumni giving rate at Carleton is actually one of the highest.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH quit giving a few years ago. He used to give annually, but the far left control of academia got to be too much for him as a moderate.

He mentioned yesterday that Annual Giving is way down and laughed. FAFO.

It's this!
I went to Occidental College - It went liberal after I left, after decades of strong leadership, Oxy had a weak black president, the faculty gained control over the President and the board, which resulted in some catastrophic financial deicsions, then came a series of poor presidents who couldn't control the lefty faculty, and now the institution is super woke - I haven't givena penny in two decades NOR have my alumni friends (of all political stripes) from those years. Everyone is disgusted at what has happened to our once-upon-a-time "Princeton of the West", which is what Oxy called itself.
My DW went to Carleton College - crazy woke - she doesn't give
My DS went to George Mason, which was hugely DEI while he was there; he lost substantial scholarship opportunities because of it, and now GMU is doing stupid things with SJP. My son doesn't give and never will.
My DD went to UVA and doesn't give because Andrus G. Ashoo, the director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, didn't think she had what it takes to be supported by his office for a major scholarship (uh, like not URM, first generation, etc.). So she did it on her own - went to Oxford for an MPhil; then Oxford offered her a full Scholarship for the DPhil, and she has been accepted by Harvard Law. I doubt she will ever give money to UVA because of how Ashoo treated her.

My message to college presidents is: actions have consequences. Your institutional leadership has failed all of us, your students, your alumni.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH quit giving a few years ago. He used to give annually, but the far left control of academia got to be too much for him as a moderate.

He mentioned yesterday that Annual Giving is way down and laughed. FAFO.

It's this!
I went to Occidental College - It went liberal after I left, after decades of strong leadership, Oxy had a weak black president, the faculty gained control over the President and the board, which resulted in some catastrophic financial deicsions, then came a series of poor presidents who couldn't control the lefty faculty, and now the institution is super woke - I haven't givena penny in two decades NOR have my alumni friends (of all political stripes) from those years. Everyone is disgusted at what has happened to our once-upon-a-time "Princeton of the West", which is what Oxy called itself.
My DW went to Carleton College - crazy woke - she doesn't give
My DS went to George Mason, which was hugely DEI while he was there; he lost substantial scholarship opportunities because of it, and now GMU is doing stupid things with SJP. My son doesn't give and never will.
My DD went to UVA and doesn't give because Andrus G. Ashoo, the director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, didn't think she had what it takes to be supported by his office for a major scholarship (uh, like not URM, first generation, etc.). So she did it on her own - went to Oxford for an MPhil; then Oxford offered her a full Scholarship for the DPhil, and she has been accepted by Harvard Law. I doubt she will ever give money to UVA because of how Ashoo treated her.

My message to college presidents is: actions have consequences. Your institutional leadership has failed all of us, your students, your alumni.

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Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight. Princeton has been and remains a top university with huge endowment and fundraising, elite by every measure. But you are unhappy that it is too diverse. And the best you could come up with to claim it is declining is that the annual fund participation rate went from very high to still high?

Don't be an ass.

What bothers me is the prospect that recent graduates and current students may be having a more stressful and less enjoyable experience there.

I'm happy if it's more diverse if that's accompanied by continued satisfaction among students when it comes to their academic and social experience. If it's not, that calls for some reflection on the part of university officials as to whether they are admitting the right kids and/or enabling the kids they are admitting to have a positive experience.

The decline in alumni giving is quite steep in recent years and apparently at an 80-year low.

What’s the connection between these two ideas? Do black people stress you out or something?

There are hardly any Black kids there. It's the Asians.

Anonymous wrote:I would guess it's related to perceived reduced odds of legacy admissions, but I'm also interested in whether it's part of a larger trend of less giving to colleges.

Whatever the explanation, I am extremely skeptical that it is about politics in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH quit giving a few years ago. He used to give annually, but the far left control of academia got to be too much for him as a moderate.

He mentioned yesterday that Annual Giving is way down and laughed. FAFO.

It's this!
I went to Occidental College - It went liberal after I left, after decades of strong leadership, Oxy had a weak black president, the faculty gained control over the President and the board, which resulted in some catastrophic financial deicsions, then came a series of poor presidents who couldn't control the lefty faculty, and now the institution is super woke - I haven't givena penny in two decades NOR have my alumni friends (of all political stripes) from those years. Everyone is disgusted at what has happened to our once-upon-a-time "Princeton of the West", which is what Oxy called itself.
My DW went to Carleton College - crazy woke - she doesn't give
My DS went to George Mason, which was hugely DEI while he was there; he lost substantial scholarship opportunities because of it, and now GMU is doing stupid things with SJP. My son doesn't give and never will.
My DD went to UVA and doesn't give because Andrus G. Ashoo, the director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, didn't think she had what it takes to be supported by his office for a major scholarship (uh, like not URM, first generation, etc.). So she did it on her own - went to Oxford for an MPhil; then Oxford offered her a full Scholarship for the DPhil, and she has been accepted by Harvard Law. I doubt she will ever give money to UVA because of how Ashoo treated her.

My message to college presidents is: actions have consequences. Your institutional leadership has failed all of us, your students, your alumni.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight. Princeton has been and remains a top university with huge endowment and fundraising, elite by every measure. But you are unhappy that it is too diverse. And the best you could come up with to claim it is declining is that the annual fund participation rate went from very high to still high?

Don't be an ass.

What bothers me is the prospect that recent graduates and current students may be having a more stressful and less enjoyable experience there.

I'm happy if it's more diverse if that's accompanied by continued satisfaction among students when it comes to their academic and social experience. If it's not, that calls for some reflection on the part of university officials as to whether they are admitting the right kids and/or enabling the kids they are admitting to have a positive experience.

The decline in alumni giving is quite steep in recent years and apparently at an 80-year low.

What’s the connection between these two ideas? Do black people stress you out or something?

Anonymous wrote:I think sensibilities have changed.

If you want to use your money to do good, a donation to an alma mater with billions is the last place you'd send it.

I would regard the 40 percent who are still donating to Princeton as people who are trying to game things for their offspring. A donation to Princeton is not the same as trying to end starvation or wars or helping orphans or assisting on any number of issues.

Princeton will do fine without your contribution. But those dollars can have a lot of impact elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH quit giving a few years ago. He used to give annually, but the far left control of academia got to be too much for him as a moderate.

He mentioned yesterday that Annual Giving is way down and laughed. FAFO.

It's this!
I went to Occidental College - It went liberal after I left, after decades of strong leadership, Oxy had a weak black president, the faculty gained control over the President and the board, which resulted in some catastrophic financial deicsions, then came a series of poor presidents who couldn't control the lefty faculty, and now the institution is super woke - I haven't givena penny in two decades NOR have my alumni friends (of all political stripes) from those years. Everyone is disgusted at what has happened to our once-upon-a-time "Princeton of the West", which is what Oxy called itself.
My DW went to Carleton College - crazy woke - she doesn't give
My DS went to George Mason, which was hugely DEI while he was there; he lost substantial scholarship opportunities because of it, and now GMU is doing stupid things with SJP. My son doesn't give and never will.
My DD went to UVA and doesn't give because Andrus G. Ashoo, the director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, didn't think she had what it takes to be supported by his office for a major scholarship (uh, like not URM, first generation, etc.). So she did it on her own - went to Oxford for an MPhil; then Oxford offered her a full Scholarship for the DPhil, and she has been accepted by Harvard Law. I doubt she will ever give money to UVA because of how Ashoo treated her.

My message to college presidents is: actions have consequences. Your institutional leadership has failed all of us, your students, your alumni.

Anonymous wrote:My DH quit giving a few years ago. He used to give annually, but the far left control of academia got to be too much for him as a moderate.

He mentioned yesterday that Annual Giving is way down and laughed. FAFO.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight. Princeton has been and remains a top university with huge endowment and fundraising, elite by every measure. But you are unhappy that it is too diverse. And the best you could come up with to claim it is declining is that the annual fund participation rate went from very high to still high?

Don't be an ass.

What bothers me is the prospect that recent graduates and current students may be having a more stressful and less enjoyable experience there.

I'm happy if it's more diverse if that's accompanied by continued satisfaction among students when it comes to their academic and social experience. If it's not, that calls for some reflection on the part of university officials as to whether they are admitting the right kids and/or enabling the kids they are admitting to have a positive experience.

The decline in alumni giving is quite steep in recent years and apparently at an 80-year low.

What’s the connection between these two ideas? Do black people stress you out or something?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Yale, not Princeton. So did my husband. We used to give a small amount every year and we both had a very good experience at Yale. We don't bother anymore. I don't know if our kids will have any interest in going to Yale or have the credentials (they are still young) but the fact that Yale seems willing to move away from caring about family connections and is constantly crowing about how many first gen applicants they accept, makes me not care as much about sending them money. I am sure that those first gen applicants are terrific and deserve to be at Yale, but I don't like that they are holding my accomplishments against my kids. My parents worked really hard to become the first in their families to go to state colleges in the 1960s. My parents' hard work is something to be proud of and that I'm glad was not held against me when I applied to Yale. I was truly middle class, so not low income, and my parents went to college, so not first gen. That is not the same thing as being a wealthy kid from generations of college graduates. This new emphasis on FGLI is a blunt instrument.

They’re literally just treating your kids like every other applicant. People used to want merit.