Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:another group that is lobbying for a magnet--letter regarding it:
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
The Education committee of the Fairfax Federation is meeting with Reid next month. They have a meeting at Gatehouse prior to that (at least I think that is what it says.)
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/education
Wait they want to make it another GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL? Would it be just part of the school, like some of the other academic year governor's schools, or are they really recommending we create a second TJ that takes the entire building??
It's an endeavor to avoid base school boundary changes. Elephant in the room is open capacity at Herndon HS. Similar to what MacKay called open capacity at Mount Vernon prior to the BOS approving the West Potomac expansion for a bond referendum. Surf the Fed of Citizens association site for names, look up addresses where possible, FCPS committee or BRAC membership. Eastern FX has Edison Global STEM [ how did it end up there and not Lewis?] so there's not a comp product in the western part of the county. https://edisonhs.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/inline-files/GSCP%20FAQs%2011.2022_0.pdf
3 years full time, 90/grade, transfer, no transportation, senior year transfer reg or apply for IB. That letter is NOT about a 60 [2 classrooms] or 90 [3 classrooms] program co-existing with the base school POS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I emailed the school board and administration. They told me that this will absolutely not be a magnet school. The intent is to alleviate overcrowding at western high schools.
I don’t believe you.
Why would I lie? Why don't you try sending emails yourself and ask the question so you can see that I'm not lying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think an aviation program is a good idea (and I don’t think most of FCPS ideas are good ideas). We have a nationwide shortage of pilots and air traffic control and this is a good market. Why the hate about this? Seems better than some sports marketing or journalism magnet??
What about medicine? We also have a shortage of doctors and nurses. My question is why aviation? Whose idea was it and why was there no public discussion of priorities?
FYI-I’m a nurse. If the country wants to alleviate the shortage of nursing, it needs to improve the retention of nurses by paying them better in certain states and not purposefully understaffing hospitals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are more schools int he area that would want to move then there is space, the idea of using this as a magnate school is ridiculous.
I know parents at Oakhill, Navy, Crossfield, and Fox Mill who would love to be at KAA. I don't know parents at McNair or Coates so I won't speak for them. The "space" for an academy would only be there because they will be adding classes as the kids move into the building. They could easily fill the capacity by the time all four grades are in to school.
The academy feels like a project to make one school board member happy, and I guess that happened at Lewis with the leadership academy so why not an aviation academy? It also strikes me as a way to try and tell parents that there is no space for their kid to move from SLHS or Westfields to the new academy, knowing that there are parents who would be happy to have their kids moved from SLHS or Westfield. It is an excuse to keep MC and UMC at moderatly high FARMS schools to keep test scores in an ok place at those schools.
It’s Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill that have first dibs on KAA, not Fox Mill or Crossfield, much less Navy. I know some have this fantasy of creating Langley 2.0 next door to Carson, but that was never going to happen with or without an aviation program part of the picture.
PP from 09:47, arguing that aviation academy may not be a conspiracy. I live no more than 2 miles from KAA, I am familiar with the local school boundaries.
Currently ES enrollment: see https://www.fcpsboundaryreview.org/
McNair 531
Coats: 983
Floris: 666
Oak Hill: 639
Total ES students above: 2819 for 7 grades.
Estimated HS students: 2819 * 4 grades / 7 grades = 1610.
Compare to HS enrollment from other nearby HSs: Chantilly: 2916, Herndon: 2230, Westfield: 2710. It's reasonable to expect the new HS target student body would be around 2000.
As you can see, the new HS either needs 400-500 students from ES feeders like Fox Mill, Xfield and/or Lee Corners, The problem with getting students from other ES is that that will turn those ES into split feeders, something FCPS is trying to avoid.
OR they can start an academy program to get that 400-500 kids to fill up the space. Note this is not a magnet school, it's academy similar to vocational academy in Chantilly, Marshalls etc. https://www.fcps.edu/academics/high/career-and-technical-education/academies-and-specialized-programs
That’s a bizarre analysis unless your assumption is that we’re supposed to pour whatever additional money is required to bring KAA up to the capacity of a school with 2000 or more kids.
If the actual capacity is closer to 1600, that’s how many kids should go there. They aren’t expanding other schools that could use additional seats, so they sure as hell shouldn’t be building an addition to KAA. Lewis has 1600 kids and that should be enough as well for KAA if that’s the number of kids it can accommodate. You can go play sports against smaller Loudoun schools, but investing even more money in this facility is ridiculous when others are repeatedly told there’s no money for them.
My analysis is based on facts, not emotion.
"The property consists of 325,000 square feet of internal space, as well as 30 acres of land at 2949, 2950, and 2954 Education Dr., Herndon. " https://northernvirginiamag.com/news/2025/06/17/fcps-approves-150m-purchase-of-king-abdullah-academy-private-school-in-herndon/
I cannot find sqft number for westfield/Chantilly or Lewis, but Oakton HS currently have 410,036 square feet, and official capacity is 2625. https://www.fcps.edu/oakton-high-capital-project
If you do the math, that makes the KAA capacity around 2080.
I try to argue based on evidences, not half truth.
The square footage does not tell you what the capacity may be without understanding how the building is actually configured. Or are you assuming we’ll just keep plowing tens of millions into this facility, without figuring out first how we’re going to take advantage of the hundreds of empty seats at another high school in western Fairfax?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think an aviation program is a good idea (and I don’t think most of FCPS ideas are good ideas). We have a nationwide shortage of pilots and air traffic control and this is a good market. Why the hate about this? Seems better than some sports marketing or journalism magnet??
What about medicine? We also have a shortage of doctors and nurses. My question is why aviation? Whose idea was it and why was there no public discussion of priorities?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:another group that is lobbying for a magnet--letter regarding it:
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
The Education committee of the Fairfax Federation is meeting with Reid next month. They have a meeting at Gatehouse prior to that (at least I think that is what it says.)
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/education
Wait they want to make it another GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL? Would it be just part of the school, like some of the other academic year governor's schools, or are they really recommending we create a second TJ that takes the entire building??
It's an endeavor to avoid base school boundary changes. Elephant in the room is open capacity at Herndon HS. Similar to what MacKay called open capacity at Mount Vernon prior to the BOS approving the West Potomac expansion for a bond referendum. Surf the Fed of Citizens association site for names, look up addresses where possible, FCPS committee or BRAC membership. Eastern FX has Edison Global STEM [ how did it end up there and not Lewis?] so there's not a comp product in the western part of the county. https://edisonhs.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/inline-files/GSCP%20FAQs%2011.2022_0.pdf
3 years full time, 90/grade, transfer, no transportation, senior year transfer reg or apply for IB. That letter is NOT about a 60 [2 classrooms] or 90 [3 classrooms] program co-existing with the base school POS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are more schools int he area that would want to move then there is space, the idea of using this as a magnate school is ridiculous.
I know parents at Oakhill, Navy, Crossfield, and Fox Mill who would love to be at KAA. I don't know parents at McNair or Coates so I won't speak for them. The "space" for an academy would only be there because they will be adding classes as the kids move into the building. They could easily fill the capacity by the time all four grades are in to school.
The academy feels like a project to make one school board member happy, and I guess that happened at Lewis with the leadership academy so why not an aviation academy? It also strikes me as a way to try and tell parents that there is no space for their kid to move from SLHS or Westfields to the new academy, knowing that there are parents who would be happy to have their kids moved from SLHS or Westfield. It is an excuse to keep MC and UMC at moderatly high FARMS schools to keep test scores in an ok place at those schools.
It’s Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill that have first dibs on KAA, not Fox Mill or Crossfield, much less Navy. I know some have this fantasy of creating Langley 2.0 next door to Carson, but that was never going to happen with or without an aviation program part of the picture.
PP from 09:47, arguing that aviation academy may not be a conspiracy. I live no more than 2 miles from KAA, I am familiar with the local school boundaries.
Currently ES enrollment: see https://www.fcpsboundaryreview.org/
McNair 531
Coats: 983
Floris: 666
Oak Hill: 639
Total ES students above: 2819 for 7 grades.
Estimated HS students: 2819 * 4 grades / 7 grades = 1610.
Compare to HS enrollment from other nearby HSs: Chantilly: 2916, Herndon: 2230, Westfield: 2710. It's reasonable to expect the new HS target student body would be around 2000.
As you can see, the new HS either needs 400-500 students from ES feeders like Fox Mill, Xfield and/or Lee Corners, The problem with getting students from other ES is that that will turn those ES into split feeders, something FCPS is trying to avoid.
OR they can start an academy program to get that 400-500 kids to fill up the space. Note this is not a magnet school, it's academy similar to vocational academy in Chantilly, Marshalls etc. https://www.fcps.edu/academics/high/career-and-technical-education/academies-and-specialized-programs
That’s a bizarre analysis unless your assumption is that we’re supposed to pour whatever additional money is required to bring KAA up to the capacity of a school with 2000 or more kids.
If the actual capacity is closer to 1600, that’s how many kids should go there. They aren’t expanding other schools that could use additional seats, so they sure as hell shouldn’t be building an addition to KAA. Lewis has 1600 kids and that should be enough as well for KAA if that’s the number of kids it can accommodate. You can go play sports against smaller Loudoun schools, but investing even more money in this facility is ridiculous when others are repeatedly told there’s no money for them.
My analysis is based on facts, not emotion.
"The property consists of 325,000 square feet of internal space, as well as 30 acres of land at 2949, 2950, and 2954 Education Dr., Herndon. " https://northernvirginiamag.com/news/2025/06/17/fcps-approves-150m-purchase-of-king-abdullah-academy-private-school-in-herndon/
I cannot find sqft number for westfield/Chantilly or Lewis, but Oakton HS currently have 410,036 square feet, and official capacity is 2625. https://www.fcps.edu/oakton-high-capital-project
If you do the math, that makes the KAA capacity around 2080.
I try to argue based on evidences, not half truth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are more schools int he area that would want to move then there is space, the idea of using this as a magnate school is ridiculous.
I know parents at Oakhill, Navy, Crossfield, and Fox Mill who would love to be at KAA. I don't know parents at McNair or Coates so I won't speak for them. The "space" for an academy would only be there because they will be adding classes as the kids move into the building. They could easily fill the capacity by the time all four grades are in to school.
The academy feels like a project to make one school board member happy, and I guess that happened at Lewis with the leadership academy so why not an aviation academy? It also strikes me as a way to try and tell parents that there is no space for their kid to move from SLHS or Westfields to the new academy, knowing that there are parents who would be happy to have their kids moved from SLHS or Westfield. It is an excuse to keep MC and UMC at moderatly high FARMS schools to keep test scores in an ok place at those schools.
It’s Coates, Floris, McNair, and Oak Hill that have first dibs on KAA, not Fox Mill or Crossfield, much less Navy. I know some have this fantasy of creating Langley 2.0 next door to Carson, but that was never going to happen with or without an aviation program part of the picture.
PP from 09:47, arguing that aviation academy may not be a conspiracy. I live no more than 2 miles from KAA, I am familiar with the local school boundaries.
Currently ES enrollment: see https://www.fcpsboundaryreview.org/
McNair 531
Coats: 983
Floris: 666
Oak Hill: 639
Total ES students above: 2819 for 7 grades.
Estimated HS students: 2819 * 4 grades / 7 grades = 1610.
Compare to HS enrollment from other nearby HSs: Chantilly: 2916, Herndon: 2230, Westfield: 2710. It's reasonable to expect the new HS target student body would be around 2000.
As you can see, the new HS either needs 400-500 students from ES feeders like Fox Mill, Xfield and/or Lee Corners, The problem with getting students from other ES is that that will turn those ES into split feeders, something FCPS is trying to avoid.
OR they can start an academy program to get that 400-500 kids to fill up the space. Note this is not a magnet school, it's academy similar to vocational academy in Chantilly, Marshalls etc. https://www.fcps.edu/academics/high/career-and-technical-education/academies-and-specialized-programs
That’s a bizarre analysis unless your assumption is that we’re supposed to pour whatever additional money is required to bring KAA up to the capacity of a school with 2000 or more kids.
If the actual capacity is closer to 1600, that’s how many kids should go there. They aren’t expanding other schools that could use additional seats, so they sure as hell shouldn’t be building an addition to KAA. Lewis has 1600 kids and that should be enough as well for KAA if that’s the number of kids it can accommodate. You can go play sports against smaller Loudoun schools, but investing even more money in this facility is ridiculous when others are repeatedly told there’s no money for them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:another group that is lobbying for a magnet--letter regarding it:
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
The Education committee of the Fairfax Federation is meeting with Reid next month. They have a meeting at Gatehouse prior to that (at least I think that is what it says.)
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/education
Wait they want to make it another GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL? Would it be just part of the school, like some of the other academic year governor's schools, or are they really recommending we create a second TJ that takes the entire building??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I emailed the school board and administration. They told me that this will absolutely not be a magnet school. The intent is to alleviate overcrowding at western high schools.
Then why are almost all the documents posted on Board Docs for the August 26 work session about FCPS plan to make the new high school an Aviation magnet? The plans are quite detailed, down to specific curriculum. There are multiple documents posted in board docs by FCPS outlining the detailed plans. The plans already discuss their chosen corporate sponsors (Amazon for example) not simply a general statement of how they are going to set up bidding for corporate sponsors.
It sounds like our school board reps need to familiarize themselves with Board Docs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think an aviation program is a good idea (and I don’t think most of FCPS ideas are good ideas). We have a nationwide shortage of pilots and air traffic control and this is a good market. Why the hate about this? Seems better than some sports marketing or journalism magnet??
What about medicine? We also have a shortage of doctors and nurses. My question is why aviation? Whose idea was it and why was there no public discussion of priorities?
Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:I emailed the school board and administration. They told me that this will absolutely not be a magnet school. The intent is to alleviate overcrowding at western high schools.
this person is trying to keep everyone from emailing