Anonymous
08/23/2025 22:37
Subject: Re:Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC's 4th time and said it was the worst. By far.
Your kid needs to give it a rest. Four times is ridiculous.
Says you. DC is already planning for a fifth and sixth.
Six times?!?
The essence of privilege.
The SAT with superscoring is a joke.
And based on the number of times people need to take it, it definitely isn't an intelligence test.
Of course it's not; this is news to you?
It's a Scholastic Aptitude Test, which, by definition, tests what one has learned in a scholastic (i.e. school) setting.
Intelligence tests, AKA IQ tests, are something different.
Sounds like your kid gave up after one or two attempts. Nothing wrong with that, but neither is there anything wrong with being more competitive and trying to raise an overall score.
Of course they are. Based on the "merit" police claims, sometimes the SAT is touted as such. Couldn't be farther from the truth.
SAT test results correlate with IQ tests about as well as different IQ tests correlate each other. So while not stricken IQ test, the results on one will track closely with the other.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 22:32
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
Parsing between a '1580+" (huh?) and a 1500 is dumb.
AOs don't do this.
I will bite.
Dumb or not, it's a data point. Colleges do provide 75 percentile for their admits. Top schools usually have it as high as 1570.
If you look at the number of 75% percentile admits at all T20, that accounts for approximately 40% of 1570+ each year. The rest of 1570+ goes to other top schools, including flagships, tech schools, top LACs, Stern/Ross, Oxibridge, and generous scholarship schools. Once you map it out using simple math, it's clear.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 22:25
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
Not true. Digital makes it harder to get above a 1500, but above 1000 is now much easier.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 22:23
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
That’s right. And some kids are willing to study their tails off, and take the SAT five, six, seven times, until they get the scores they want.
Shows grit, which is what colleges are want
No, it doesn’t. With very few exceptions, schools don’t know the number of times or variations of the tests taken. And no kid is saying I took it 10 times.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 21:50
Subject: Re:Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
I don't think that is quite true. I paid $5000 for a private tutor to help DS improve his score. It wouldn't have improved if he didn't have some basic level of intelligence, but he's in a better position than someone whose parents could not hire a tutor and had his same basic level of intelligence. The test is still slanted towards the rich, which is unfortunate.
Such is life!
Prof Chetty just published a paper on standardized test. He concludes that utilization of test would cut down rich kids at ivies by 40%.
They do have an edge in terms of resources. But if they don't perform, money cannot buy it.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 21:46
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
That’s right. And some kids are willing to study their tails off, and take the SAT five, six, seven times, until they get the scores they want.
Shows grit, which is what colleges are want
Sure, think that.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 21:39
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
That’s right. And some kids are willing to study their tails off, and take the SAT five, six, seven times, until they get the scores they want.
Shows grit, which is what colleges are want
Anonymous
08/23/2025 21:37
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
Parsing between a '1580+" (huh?) and a 1500 is dumb.
AOs don't do this.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 21:34
Subject: Re:Today’s SAT
It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
I don't think that is quite true. I paid $5000 for a private tutor to help DS improve his score. It wouldn't have improved if he didn't have some basic level of intelligence, but he's in a better position than someone whose parents could not hire a tutor and had his same basic level of intelligence. The test is still slanted towards the rich, which is unfortunate.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 21:30
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
That’s right. And some kids are willing to study their tails off, and take the SAT five, six, seven times, until they get the scores they want.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 20:40
Subject: Today’s SAT
College board has watered down the test in the past five years. Nonetheless, without a certain level of intelligence, no way one can achieve 1580+. 1500 is easier, it’s a combination of intelligence and work ethic.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
Merit or not, like it or not, the test is back to many elite colleges. It makes it more difficult for rich families to get in, an equalizer for legacy, athletes, and donors. They too have to achieve certain test scores now to be accepted.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 19:59
Subject: Re:Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC's 4th time and said it was the worst. By far.
Your kid needs to give it a rest. Four times is ridiculous.
Says you. DC is already planning for a fifth and sixth.
Six times?!?
The essence of privilege.
The SAT with superscoring is a joke.
And based on the number of times people need to take it, it definitely isn't an intelligence test.
Of course it's not; this is news to you?
It's a Scholastic Aptitude Test, which, by definition, tests what one has learned in a scholastic (i.e. school) setting.
Intelligence tests, AKA IQ tests, are something different.
Sounds like your kid gave up after one or two attempts. Nothing wrong with that, but neither is there anything wrong with being more competitive and trying to raise an overall score.
Of course they are. Based on the "merit" police claims, sometimes the SAT is touted as such. Couldn't be farther from the truth.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 19:51
Subject: Today’s SAT
My senior felt great about it then she studied HARD all summer hoping to break a 1500 after getting 1380/1390 last August and September (not studying much). Literally took practice tests nearly every day all summer, went through every question and online module and was ready - hoping for her sake she did it this time.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 19:43
Subject: Today’s SAT
My DD thinks that both were easy but she thinks that she was screwed that's why they were easy.
Anonymous
08/23/2025 18:29
Subject: Today’s SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD feels so defeated. After waiting 30 minutes extra to be checked in due to long lines she had a WIFI outtage towards the end of the 2nd harder math section and half way through the wifi never returned and after all that she was told she had no recourse except to have the test cancelled!
There are no September seats left in our region and now she's scrambling to find a seat for October or November.
I am soo frustrated with the College Board and this whole rat race! There is no SAT at her school so we were counting on this.
That’s so frustrating - and doesn’t seem right! When DD was doing the computer set up on Thursday or Friday, the info specifically said that WiFi was only needed to start and complete the test, and that if there was a failure, students have up to 24 hours to get back on WiFi and have their tests submitted. I wonder why the testing site gave her different information??
Here’s the FAQ for it - have her try this!
https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/help-center/what-happens-if-students-issue-device-connectivity-test-day
“At the end of the test, if a student is still offline and their answer submission fails, they'll have until 11:59 p.m. local time the next day to get back online and submit their answers. They'll need to go to their My SAT page and sign in to Bluebook™ to submit their answers.”