Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel left out, but out careers are good, our kids are thriving at school and college is covered.
We’ve got a high enough income to afford a big mortgage but the process of saving for the down payment is small.
My parents, for reasons really only clear to them, are appalled at the idea of helping us with a down payment but have dropped several hundred grand into 529s. Our retirement accounts are doing fine and honestly, at some point in the future not 10 years I’ll probably inherit enough to buy an extremely nice house for cash… but it’s weird to think I’ll never have a 30 year mortgage (whether I inherit or not).
Anonymous wrote:I’m not the OP, but the tone in this thread is exhausting.
You all talk like generational wealth is a moral achievement instead of what it is: luck paired with good timing.
The OP said they have no debt, thriving kids, college fully funded, and a stable retirement trajectory. But because they rent and don’t fit your mental picture of “wealth,” it somehow becomes open season?
Homeownership is not a character trait. It’s a financial tool—and like any tool, its usefulness depends on the context. Some of you bought in 2014 or refinanced at 2.8% and act like it was your budgeting discipline, not Fed policy, that made you smart.
Let’s not confuse intergenerational strategy with laziness. Or flexibility with failure. If the OP’s setup makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why—and what it says about the limits of your own imagination.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not OP or PP, but it seems entitled to complain that your parents don't help with a down payment when you acknowledge you have good salaries and your parents help with college for your kids. You realize that most people have to save for a down payment and college, right?
I'm not complaining. I'm noting.
And, I know very few people who did not receive some form of assistance from their parents. Hell, my parents got $5k from my grandparents in 1971 for their downpayment. My parents have been extremely generous, but there was never a discussion about in what way--I can't complain (and haven't) that they've already financed by kid's college education in advance, but I think that if 12 years ago, they had given me 1/3 of what they have put into our kid's college accounts, I would own a nice house and would be pretty heftily be paying into a 529. But they didn't.
I'm just commenting on the weirdness of it. When talking to my peers, a lot of them are really stressed about how to pay for college and are unhappy they can't send their kids to private school... but they own homes I can't imagine ever owning. I wonder who, in the end, is better off. I think, financially speaking, they are... but I don't regret prioritizing my kid's education.
Now this is interesting...
I don’t know anyone at the private schools who is a renter who is not on significant FA…like nearly 100%.
On the other hand, I do know homeowners with decent two fed incomes that receive like 60% FA.
OP…you could have had the best of both worlds as I am pretty sure the privates don’t look at home equity for FA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did/do you use your expendable cash to buy bitcoin? Did you invest in Apple in 1999? How does your retirement look? How much is in savings? What type of rental are you in? Condo, rowhome, rancher, cape cod, garden apartment, basement, single family, boathouse.
Just curious.
I wouldn't buy Bitcoin with your money, I bought Netflix in 2003, my retirement is pretty good—wife's is a bit fuller, but we max out contributions to 401k. We rent a three bedroom house in upper NW and have savings to cover 18 months rent. Truthfully we are slowly stashing away money for a downpayment, but prices are rising faster than our savings and we prioritize our kid's education and retirement.
Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel left out, but out careers are good, our kids are thriving at school and college is covered.
We’ve got a high enough income to afford a big mortgage but the process of saving for the down payment is small.
My parents, for reasons really only clear to them, are appalled at the idea of helping us with a down payment but have dropped several hundred grand into 529s. Our retirement accounts are doing fine and honestly, at some point in the future not 10 years I’ll probably inherit enough to buy an extremely nice house for cash… but it’s weird to think I’ll never have a 30 year mortgage (whether I inherit or not).
I feel a little sad for you that you did not get the chance to feel the accomplishment of saving for the closing costs for a home and will be robbed of the satisfaction watching your mortgage principal go down or be able to celebrate paying off your mortgage.Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel left out, but out careers are good, our kids are thriving at school and college is covered.
We’ve got a high enough income to afford a big mortgage but the process of saving for the down payment is small.
My parents, for reasons really only clear to them, are appalled at the idea of helping us with a down payment but have dropped several hundred grand into 529s. Our retirement accounts are doing fine and honestly, at some point in the future not 10 years I’ll probably inherit enough to buy an extremely nice house for cash… but it’s weird to think I’ll never have a 30 year mortgage (whether I inherit or not).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many nasty people on here.
Home-ownership is NOT the goal in life. If OP is living a nice life, and giving her kids a nice life, it doesn't matter at all whether they rent or own.
Stop it with this idea that renting is for the poors, or that renters aren't making the "right" financial decisions.
- homeowner who knows that it's not all what it's cracked up to be.
I agree although I’d say judgmental people living in such small worlds that they can’t believe there are people out there making different choices.
We’ve owned two homes and sold the last one a few years back. We still have one in middle school so we are committed to this school district. We’re renting and don’t plan on owning again but who knows.
My husband was left 8 figures when his parents died. The kids have low 7 figures in individual trusts. Most of the money will end up with the kids because we live simple lives.
I do think a lot of stupid people think renting = low income. They don’t get to know a lot of people that aren’t just like them. They’re not only nasty, they’re boring.
Anonymous wrote:So many nasty people on here.
Home-ownership is NOT the goal in life. If OP is living a nice life, and giving her kids a nice life, it doesn't matter at all whether they rent or own.
Stop it with this idea that renting is for the poors, or that renters aren't making the "right" financial decisions.
- homeowner who knows that it's not all what it's cracked up to be.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you are living well beyond your means. I’m not sure what you want here. Most people with two “good careers” can afford a house, including a down payment. You seem very entitled which may be your parents’ “reason.”
I’m not living beyond my means. I don’t have any debt. I wake up everyday and live a good life. My kids are getting an excellent education.
I guess I’m wondering why more people don’t do this and I think the answer is they get trapped in home ownership. In New York people don’t worry about buying, they just take advantage of the opportunities they have.
Not trying to attack - when you say you're "wondering why more people don't to this" - what is the this? Get hundreds of thousands of dollars from your parents for your kids education? Or is it live as renters because it's better than buying a house?
Basically OP is saying they live fine, can’t save for a down payment. Their kids college is ok because of grandparents.
I know many people who rely on parents. We can easily fund our kids but I always tell them that they have to support themselves and families. OP and her family would be the bare minimum I would want my kids to be able to do, basically feed themselves and I will have to pay for my grandchildren’s college. Sigh. That sounds pretty bad actually. Hope my kids do better and able to at least buy a home. We would give them down payment money though. I wouldn’t want them to wait for us to die to buy a house finally in cash.
I dunno, I suppose it depends on how important you think it is to own a home. I think a debt free education for every generation is more worth it.
Will you be able to do for your grandkids what your parents are doing for theirs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you are living well beyond your means. I’m not sure what you want here. Most people with two “good careers” can afford a house, including a down payment. You seem very entitled which may be your parents’ “reason.”
I’m not living beyond my means. I don’t have any debt. I wake up everyday and live a good life. My kids are getting an excellent education.
I guess I’m wondering why more people don’t do this and I think the answer is they get trapped in home ownership. In New York people don’t worry about buying, they just take advantage of the opportunities they have.
Not trying to attack - when you say you're "wondering why more people don't to this" - what is the this? Get hundreds of thousands of dollars from your parents for your kids education? Or is it live as renters because it's better than buying a house?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our primary house in DC will be paid off in 4 years. Our vacation home will be paid off in 5. I love that we'll own our properties outright and can leave them to our children.
Yeah, and I love that my kids go to elite private schools and will not have to worry about cost when picking their college.
While I can see some upsides to owning a home, I really can't imagine wanting a vacation home. My life is too busy and we travel too much to ever make going to a single place worthwhile.
Again...it's still very unclear the purpose of this thread. You clearly created it because you feel "less than". If you could turn back the clock, you would be in a much better position today if you had used the money you don't have to save for college or retirement to purchase a home.
As a PP pointed out, you likely would have received FA at the elite private school because they don't look at home equity...so you would be it would seem much better off if you had purchased a home.
No, he created it because he doesn’t feel less than. He actually feels pretty superior. Though he does admit he is standing on his parents’ shoulders.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our primary house in DC will be paid off in 4 years. Our vacation home will be paid off in 5. I love that we'll own our properties outright and can leave them to our children.
Yeah, and I love that my kids go to elite private schools and will not have to worry about cost when picking their college.
While I can see some upsides to owning a home, I really can't imagine wanting a vacation home. My life is too busy and we travel too much to ever make going to a single place worthwhile.
Again...it's still very unclear the purpose of this thread. You clearly created it because you feel "less than". If you could turn back the clock, you would be in a much better position today if you had used the money you don't have to save for college or retirement to purchase a home.
As a PP pointed out, you likely would have received FA at the elite private school because they don't look at home equity...so you would be it would seem much better off if you had purchased a home.