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Anonymous wrote:I'm on vacation with my DH's family and the wine just flows. My MIL repeats herself and gets teary and on and on. Their friends drop in for a cocktail and stay for dinner. I swear it's like a geriatric frat house!! I mean good for them, they earned it, but I'm also like, good lord people I can't keep up and you're 75!!

boomers are really just awful all around they don't deserve anything except an exit off earth so that their hoarding of wealth and resources subsides

Anonymous wrote:The COVID jab is way worse than alcohol. That's why everybody stopped getting boosted way before the CDC stopped advising it.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

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The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

I get your point. I’m a gen x. Millennials are so uptight about everything, including alcohol BUT here is why I no longer drink. I want to live to my late 90’s and not my late 70’s. It’s hard to stay healthy as you age and drink any amount of alcohol.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

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Anonymous wrote:Boomer here with boomer spouse. Four adult kids all in their 30s and 40s with similarly aged spouses. They all drink much more than we do now and ever have, especially at family gatherings and vacations. But here’s the thing: we don’t judge their entire generation because of it. In fact, we don’t judge it at all. Who gives a shit? People who judge whole generations and people who drink just suck.

Boomers raised heavy drinkers. Got it.

Anonymous wrote:I'm on vacation with my DH's family and the wine just flows. My MIL repeats herself and gets teary and on and on. Their friends drop in for a cocktail and stay for dinner. I swear it's like a geriatric frat house!! I mean good for them, they earned it, but I'm also like, good lord people I can't keep up and you're 75!!

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Anonymous wrote:My mother in law asks for a teaspoon of wine in a glass of water. She drink this about once a year.
That’s just as annoying in my opinion. She’s so special! So delicate!

My MIL takes the smallest sliver of birthday cake. I respect her self-control and she doesn't make snarky remarks about the rest of us overeating.

Anonymous wrote:My mother in law asks for a teaspoon of wine in a glass of water. She drink this about once a year.
That’s just as annoying in my opinion. She’s so special! So delicate!