Anonymous
Post 07/24/2025 06:07     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH went to Yale for med school. If you are an attractive PA student, you can get yourself a doctor husband. We know nurses from Georgetown and Penn who are married to doctors from Georgetown and Penn.


Eww. You can also be a doctor and marry a doctor husband, it is not the 1970s. Most of my work colleagues married doctors they met in med school or undergraduate, me included. In a large multispecialty practice with over 20 docs, 2/3 are doc-doc couples and the rest are doc-lawyer or doc-dentist. Only one has a SAHM wife.


It still happens now, sadly (DP by the way).
I am a female who is CEO of a company. The Law partner I dated married a dog walker, the TV director I dated, married a nursery school teacher. My cousin who is a consultant in a hospital, wanted to marry a fellow doctor but ended up with a nurse.

Sometimes successful men like to marry less successful women. For whatever reason.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2025 00:18     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:Dr. Regina Cunningham received her BSN from College of St Vincent
Kevin Sowers received his BSN from Capital University Schol of Nursing

I'm not trying to minimize them in any way but neither of these two accomplished nurse executives started out at Penn or Hopkins.







Not to split hairs but Capital’s nursing school has always punched above its weight. I grew up nearby and kids regularly turned down other flagship programs for direct-admit BSNs at Capital, and until quite recently it was usually chosen over Ohio State by nursing applicants from central Ohio.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2025 00:15     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“ In a hospital setting, nurses do not work for doctors. they work for the hospital. Nurses are not subserviant.”

You do what the doctor says. If you disagree with the doctor, the doctor’s opinion will prevail. Yes, you are subservient, and should be.


What? Again it's a team. Nurses use their education and clinical skills to care for patients. Doctors write orders. The pharmacists, nurses, physical therapists, nutritionists all have the ability and responsibility to ask about them. The nurse is with the patient in the hospital more than anyone else. The doctor isn't the person who knows how to use the IV pump on the MRI machine...these attitudes are exhausting. May you never need medical care.


Just pointing out that doctors have average of 30 mins of nutrition education in their entire 4 year training, so they don’t give orders to nutritionists. We give the orders.


Off-topic but that’s so true. My DD’s nutritionist just had to walk her pediatrician through what seemed like a pretty straightforward blood draw order. She knew so much more than the pediatrician and explained some detailed follow-up that was needed. Even the pediatrician said it would be better if the nutritionist was allowed to order the draw herself.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 19:17     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:I believe Emory's Nursing program is currently considered one of the best in the country, top 3 maybe?

Number 1 for 5 years now.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 18:02     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“ In a hospital setting, nurses do not work for doctors. they work for the hospital. Nurses are not subserviant.”

You do what the doctor says. If you disagree with the doctor, the doctor’s opinion will prevail. Yes, you are subservient, and should be.


What? Again it's a team. Nurses use their education and clinical skills to care for patients. Doctors write orders. The pharmacists, nurses, physical therapists, nutritionists all have the ability and responsibility to ask about them. The nurse is with the patient in the hospital more than anyone else. The doctor isn't the person who knows how to use the IV pump on the MRI machine...these attitudes are exhausting. May you never need medical care.


Just pointing out that doctors have average of 30 mins of nutrition education in their entire 4 year training, so they don’t give orders to nutritionists. We give the orders.


apologies - meant to say more like a doctor can order TPN and then the nutritionist will make it right
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 16:48     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:Dr. Regina Cunningham received her BSN from College of St Vincent
Kevin Sowers received his BSN from Capital University Schol of Nursing

I'm not trying to minimize them in any way but neither of these two accomplished nurse executives started out at Penn or Hopkins.


Exactly




Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 13:03     Subject: Re:Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:I agree about not going into debt for a BSN but go to the best program you can get into that offers the best financial aid package. My DD liked having high achieving nursing classmates and professors who offered research opportunities, encouraged her to go on for a master and doctorate.

The current USNWR list: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/nursing-overall?_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

Emory
Duke
Penn
Ohio State
Univ. of Iowa
UNC Chapel Hill
Pitt
UWash
Case Western
UCLA


BC, UMich, Ucla, & Case are tied on that list.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 09:30     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“ In a hospital setting, nurses do not work for doctors. they work for the hospital. Nurses are not subserviant.”

You do what the doctor says. If you disagree with the doctor, the doctor’s opinion will prevail. Yes, you are subservient, and should be.


What? Again it's a team. Nurses use their education and clinical skills to care for patients. Doctors write orders. The pharmacists, nurses, physical therapists, nutritionists all have the ability and responsibility to ask about them. The nurse is with the patient in the hospital more than anyone else. The doctor isn't the person who knows how to use the IV pump on the MRI machine...these attitudes are exhausting. May you never need medical care.


yes it is a team! Any physician knows this. You cannot survive residency without working as team with all of the above. I never considered my nurses subservient, they were more like saviors especially as an intern. They know when to get social work and nutrition involved, they alert the doctors at the first sign of a problem. Our attendings would ask the nurses how the interns and residents were doing as far as managing the workload and timely orders, attitude, answering pages immediately and all
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 09:21     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:Pp again. It may matter when dating/getting married to those who care. Having gone to Penn or Georgetown or Johns Hopkins will put you in a better position than Ohio State. The Yale PA student I was thinking of had her pick of men at Yale.

There is a woman on the relationship board who is some sort of healthcare tech always asking about dating up.


I am all for prestigious nursing programs for many reasons above but dating doctors should not be a consideration for nurses or PAs.
Med schools are 50-50 male/female and most were when DW and I started in the late 90s. We went to different med schools, one T3 one T50, both had PA schools affiliated with the med school and some of the basic courses(anatomy) overlapped. Not one single PA-doc couple came out of it. Most docs came into med school single and by the end of med school were dating someone in the class seriously enough to couples match. A few dated residents and married them. The rest of us were already together from undergrad. A few met dental school students or law students and professional school mixers and married them. I continue to teach the physical exam basics at the med school and mentor small groups: they still predominantly date and marry each other if they arrive single. About 10% arrive already married which is new--it was Zero back then --but the average is 1-2 gap years now, not 0. There is little time to look elsewhere and the gender balance suits everyone.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 09:06     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:DH went to Yale for med school. If you are an attractive PA student, you can get yourself a doctor husband. We know nurses from Georgetown and Penn who are married to doctors from Georgetown and Penn.


Eww. You can also be a doctor and marry a doctor husband, it is not the 1970s. Most of my work colleagues married doctors they met in med school or undergraduate, me included. In a large multispecialty practice with over 20 docs, 2/3 are doc-doc couples and the rest are doc-lawyer or doc-dentist. Only one has a SAHM wife.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 08:16     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“ In a hospital setting, nurses do not work for doctors. they work for the hospital. Nurses are not subserviant.”

You do what the doctor says. If you disagree with the doctor, the doctor’s opinion will prevail. Yes, you are subservient, and should be.


What? Again it's a team. Nurses use their education and clinical skills to care for patients. Doctors write orders. The pharmacists, nurses, physical therapists, nutritionists all have the ability and responsibility to ask about them. The nurse is with the patient in the hospital more than anyone else. The doctor isn't the person who knows how to use the IV pump on the MRI machine...these attitudes are exhausting. May you never need medical care.


Just pointing out that doctors have average of 30 mins of nutrition education in their entire 4 year training, so they don’t give orders to nutritionists. We give the orders.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:55     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Pp again. It may matter when dating/getting married to those who care. Having gone to Penn or Georgetown or Johns Hopkins will put you in a better position than Ohio State. The Yale PA student I was thinking of had her pick of men at Yale.

There is a woman on the relationship board who is some sort of healthcare tech always asking about dating up.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:45     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
DH went to Yale for med school. If you are an attractive PA student, you can get yourself a doctor husband. We know nurses from Georgetown and Penn who are married to doctors from Georgetown and Penn.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:41     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
I believe Emory's Nursing program is currently considered one of the best in the country, top 3 maybe?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 01:08     Subject: Prestigious nursing programs?
Another note: residents do not independently create treatment plans, so most of the order you received from them likely originated from an attending. Just because you do not understand the reasoning behind the attending's decisions does not make them or the resident and idiot.