Anonymous wrote:Open AI coding wiped the floor last week in coding competition though did lose at very end.. Coding is dead, original creative thinking is not.

CS and IT do ave major oversupply of talent, job mkt is overall brutal right now.

If it's possible to do work faster with AI, why won't humans just think of more work to do, more products and services to create, etc? And humans will be partially involved in all of it.

We have so much unnecessary stuff in our lives now but there's no sense that that is decreasing.

There is a relatively unlimited amount of work to be done because people have unlimited, always evolving wants and ways to spend their time.

Also think of all the jobs we still have even though computers and machines do it better. I just went to a museum where the docents handcraft wooden type and offer paid printing seminars to artists. Vermont is full of hand potters. People have preferences for human involvement in product design, development, and creation.

Please stop flacking dystopian views. You are badgering the sheeple into believing this all has to turn out badly.

Anonymous wrote:I think some of you have been talking about this for a while. I just stumbled across this today:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1m2ofht/cs_is_dead_pls_read/

"ook i know this sounds like doom posting because it is. but someone needs to tell you the truth before you waste 4 years of your life

cs unemployment just hit 6.1% for new grads. thats HIGHER than liberal arts majors. let that sink in. computer engineering is even worse at 7.5%. you have better odds getting a job with an english degree

remember when everyone said "just get into faang"? 700+ people laid off DAILY in tech this year. meta alone cut 20k+. these aren't juniors, these are senior engineers with 10+ yoe now flooding the entry level market. you're not competing with other new grads anymore, you're competing with ex-google engineers willing to take 60k just to have a job. theyre lit cutting everyone w/ ai. coding is the first thing ai will take."

And the rest.....

This is silly. We can’t find decent programmers to fill mid level contracting roles making $140K. I’ve literally never seen a resume with FAANG experience applying for a government contracting job.

I feel like the people that waste time hand wringing about changes at the margins like this are the same people that base significant life decisions on $0.10 per gallon gas price fluctuations.

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Anonymous wrote:CS majors are well equipped to leverage AI. No worries.

+1 more so than English majors. DC is a CS major and uses AI to check their work. They are now at an internship at a large tech company.

But you don't have to be a CS major, that's the point. I majored in the humanities and use AI every day. I'm at a large company and work with data scientist and science PhDs. I used to rely on them to do things I couldn't do; now I can use AI and get what I need. It's hard to overstate what a massive change this has been in the last 18 months.

Can you create and improve the AI? Engineer systems to make it run more efficiently and not exhaust the planet's resources? Did your humanities major teach you how to fix it when it breaks or how to prevent it from accidentally starting a nuclear war?

Anonymous wrote:Is AI capable enough to write full fledged software deployed on to Cloud networks, monitor and troubleshoot, test, fix, write requirements, solve vulnerabilities, do evaluations & assessment, etc? Is it that capable now that we don't need any CS workers? and who will train the AI models? are they self-aware?

You realize you are talking to a bunch of English and business majors who use AI to create drafts, and therefore think they know as much as anyone needs to know about computer science, right? Like the PP above who said she uses AI so no one needs CS majors anymore? LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that it has worse unemployment than liberal arts majors for sure. Those with liberal arts majors are more adaptable and willing to explore a variety of jobs. Those with a CS degree are not willing to "lower" themselves to jobs outside of that field.

Also, I know the software company my brother works for just outsourced and hired a bunch of H1B workers. That was their compromise to save money because the economy is so terrible right now.

They usually don’t have EQ or social skills

Stop pedaling in false stereotypes and tropes.

Anonymous wrote:Open AI coding wiped the floor last week in coding competition though did lose at very end.. Coding is dead, original creative thinking is not.

CS and IT do ave major oversupply of talent, job mkt is overall brutal right now.

CS is not coding. Coding is like one class and it doesn't use a specific language.

Open AI coding wiped the floor last week in coding competition though did lose at very end.. Coding is dead, original creative thinking is not.

CS and IT do ave major oversupply of talent, job mkt is overall brutal right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Just spent the weekend with a friend from college who is starting his third startup (sold last one to Intel for a fortune). He said, for his engineering, he hired three great engineers, who are all Argentinians working remotely from Argentina for very little. He said, even just a couple of years ago, he would have hired about 15 engineers, mostly in person. He said the difference is AI. He is moving faster and better with three engineers in Argentina and a contract for the high end version of Ai than he would have done a couple of trays ago. He told me that coding is over as a career and software engineers are all scared of more layoffs.

Definitely not a time to go into cs.

Why? If it's that labor saving, he can create and sell more start-ups faster.

There are costs associated with that? He also likely doesn’t parallel track these startups and does them sequentially.

I think it’s an eye/opening account if true. Seems quite believable.

It doesn't need to be true it's what the people at the top of the food chain desperately want to believe. Hiring will be down dramatically for the foreseeable future.

Anonymous wrote:There is a job vacancy at Astronomer.

"The data operations company, which was founded in 2018, acknowledged that “awareness of our company may have changed overnight,” but its mission would continue to be focused on addressing data and artificial intelligence problems."

Haha

Anonymous wrote:My college-age son sent me this Instagram video about AI. It's hilarious.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGylBWzBe1m/?l=1

Spot on.

There is a job vacancy at Astronomer.

"The data operations company, which was founded in 2018, acknowledged that “awareness of our company may have changed overnight,” but its mission would continue to be focused on addressing data and artificial intelligence problems."

My college-age son sent me this Instagram video about AI. It's hilarious.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGylBWzBe1m/?l=1

Is AI capable enough to write full fledged software deployed on to Cloud networks, monitor and troubleshoot, test, fix, write requirements, solve vulnerabilities, do evaluations & assessment, etc? Is it that capable now that we don't need any CS workers? and who will train the AI models? are they self-aware?

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Anonymous wrote:Just spent the weekend with a friend from college who is starting his third startup (sold last one to Intel for a fortune). He said, for his engineering, he hired three great engineers, who are all Argentinians working remotely from Argentina for very little. He said, even just a couple of years ago, he would have hired about 15 engineers, mostly in person. He said the difference is AI. He is moving faster and better with three engineers in Argentina and a contract for the high end version of Ai than he would have done a couple of trays ago. He told me that coding is over as a career and software engineers are all scared of more layoffs.

Definitely not a time to go into cs.

Why? If it's that labor saving, he can create and sell more start-ups faster.

There are costs associated with that? He also likely doesn’t parallel track these startups and does them sequentially.

I think it’s an eye/opening account if true. Seems quite believable.

The PP said startup founder can do them faster and better now. Not every startup cashes out. I think the claim would support being able to found more businesses.

Once startup founder has $$$$ then he's going to spend it on things that require people. Maybe CS majors should learn how to captain yachts.

The vast majority of VC-funded companies especially in AI are still coming from folks with a strong CS/technical background even if not their major.

Of course, you have a bunch of successful dropouts that are largely self-taught as well.

I think the future in a bunch of industries is that you will be vulnerable as just an employee.

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Anonymous wrote:CS majors are well equipped to leverage AI. No worries.

+1 more so than English majors. DC is a CS major and uses AI to check their work. They are now at an internship at a large tech company.

But you don't have to be a CS major, that's the point. I majored in the humanities and use AI every day. I'm at a large company and work with data scientist and science PhDs. I used to rely on them to do things I couldn't do; now I can use AI and get what I need. It's hard to overstate what a massive change this has been in the last 18 months.