Anonymous wrote:Are you speculating she was kidnapped and somehow taken off the boat and living in an island?

There’s no way that happened.

If you’ve cruised, you know they tightly control who gets on and off—including crew. They scan your card and match a photo to each person before they exit. No way anyone could just walk off.

Snd fell off, jumped off, or was pushed off. Those are the only 3 options.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there enough runaways that could be used for sex trafficking. Why take her? I knew Any Bradley, she was not particularly attractive and would have been very difficult to control.

I personally thought it was odd how the family thought she was so attractive. Like how they kept saying how much attention she got from staff. She was average at best. I hate to be that person, but they are delusional.

This.

Really gorgeous sex workers are not kept in low rent brothels in the Caribbean.

And she was a bit old at 23 for kidnapping for that purpose. They usually target teen girls. She didn’t even look young for her age.

I think it was likely that she did get off the ship to score drugs and incurred a drug debt that she was working off. Still tragic.

She walked off the boat barefoot before 6 AM and no one from the boat security/off boarding saw her?

You sound co okeyeky confysed.

Please watch the series before chiming in.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there enough runaways that could be used for sex trafficking. Why take her? I knew Any Bradley, she was not particularly attractive and would have been very difficult to control.

I personally thought it was odd how the family thought she was so attractive. Like how they kept saying how much attention she got from staff. She was average at best. I hate to be that person, but they are delusional.

This.

Really gorgeous sex workers are not kept in low rent brothels in the Caribbean.

And she was a bit old at 23 for kidnapping for that purpose. They usually target teen girls. She didn’t even look young for her age.

I think it was likely that she did get off the ship to score drugs and incurred a drug debt that she was working off. Still tragic.

She walked off the boat barefoot before 6 AM and no one from the boat security/off boarding saw her?

You sound co okeyeky confysed.

Please watch the series before chiming in.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there enough runaways that could be used for sex trafficking. Why take her? I knew Any Bradley, she was not particularly attractive and would have been very difficult to control.

I personally thought it was odd how the family thought she was so attractive. Like how they kept saying how much attention she got from staff. She was average at best. I hate to be that person, but they are delusional.

This.

Really gorgeous sex workers are not kept in low rent brothels in the Caribbean.

And she was a bit old at 23 for kidnapping for that purpose. They usually target teen girls. She didn’t even look young for her age.

I think it was likely that she did get off the ship to score drugs and incurred a drug debt that she was working off. Still tragic.

She walked off the boat barefoot before 6 AM and no one from the boat security/off boarding saw her?

Anonymous wrote:These “witness” stories are ridiculous.

Especially the army guy who says this woman clearly identified herself as Amy and asked for help, and he did NOTHING for YEARS because he was afraid the army would punish him for being in a brothel. Wtf dude? You could’ve placed an anonymous tip?

Same with all the other witnesses. “She looked sad and scared and so, instead of calling someone, I went back to my Pina Colada, enjoyed my vacation and now I’m giving you my first hand account”. LOL.

In the very slim chance that she is out there, at least this documentary will publicize her face and maybe someone will recognize her and call the police.

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Anonymous wrote:OH! And the Dad saw her out there alone around 5:45 am. Why wouldn't he ask her to come in? Such an odd family and something is off.

Agree I found that odd. Why didn’t he go and say good morning or see if she wanted to come inside and get into bed? I wouldn’t have left my grown daughter on the balcony at the crack of dawn. Then he said “something” then woke him up-I think it was her falling. Maybe the table moved when it happened but that’s when he said she was no longer there. So did he drift back off to sleep between 5:45 and 6:30? The timeline is very strange.

I don’t think it’s strange he didn’t invite her to come in. The whole family was sharing a small cabin. The parents had gone to bed, but the kids were out partying for most of the night. Amy and her brother had each returned to the cabin separately. Then they went out on the balcony to smoke. Then the brother came back inside the cabin, but Amy stayed on the balcony. The ship was coming into port early that morning, and the dad had been awakened multiple times during the night by the kids. The poor guy was trying to get some sleep and he thought Amy was smoking.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she leaned over the balcony to throw up (not wanting to go inside the cabin and wake everybody or stink it up) and fell overboard. I don't think the Jas photo is her. Trafficking happens, but it's not middle class white ladies on cruise ships with their families.

This.

This makes the most sense.

If you’ve ever been in a cruise cabin, you know how small they are. The parents would be asleep in a bed between the balcony and bathroom. Opening the door would wake everyone up. It’s loud.

I think it’s very likely that she ended up in the ocean, but the door leading from the balcony into the cabin was left 10-14” open, per Amy’s dad. Either she or her brother had left it open. Her dad also says “something” awoke him around 6am. The something could have been Amy exiting the cabin into a hallway. There were young women on the ship who had spent time talking to Amy and claim they saw her take an elevator going up with Yellow (the musician) around 6am, but only Yellow came back down.

I’m not convinced she was smuggled off the ship, but there is no way that a scan card system is infallible. Shit happens and there isn’t 100% compliance with official procedures. A crew member would know how to sneak people or things off the ship.

The timeline isn’t exact.

And there tend to be a decent number of crew and passengers up and about at 6am (especially on a port day).

I think those girls might have seen them together earlier. Maybe.

But how could they see them going off together and him returning alone? Were they just parked by the elevator?

If that was the case, it would point towards a sexual assault and murder, not holding her prisoner someplace and finding a way to sneak her off a ship during a port day where they scan everyone getting off the boat.

I didn’t think it was an elevator. … The two girls said after they left the bar they weren’t quite ready to go to bed so they went up on the top deck to hang out. They claim they saw Amy and Yellow walking around there, but remember this was in the middle of the night after drinking and they didn’t know Amy personally.

No, their memories were very specific.

Women are never believed.

It is like they are children or assumed to be confused.

It has nothing to do with them being women it has to do with people who had been binge drinking for hours on end and relying on their memory.

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Anonymous wrote:OH! And the Dad saw her out there alone around 5:45 am. Why wouldn't he ask her to come in? Such an odd family and something is off.

Agree I found that odd. Why didn’t he go and say good morning or see if she wanted to come inside and get into bed? I wouldn’t have left my grown daughter on the balcony at the crack of dawn. Then he said “something” then woke him up-I think it was her falling. Maybe the table moved when it happened but that’s when he said she was no longer there. So did he drift back off to sleep between 5:45 and 6:30? The timeline is very strange.

I don’t think it’s strange he didn’t invite her to come in. The whole family was sharing a small cabin. The parents had gone to bed, but the kids were out partying for most of the night. Amy and her brother had each returned to the cabin separately. Then they went out on the balcony to smoke. Then the brother came back inside the cabin, but Amy stayed on the balcony. The ship was coming into port early that morning, and the dad had been awakened multiple times during the night by the kids. The poor guy was trying to get some sleep and he thought Amy was smoking.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she leaned over the balcony to throw up (not wanting to go inside the cabin and wake everybody or stink it up) and fell overboard. I don't think the Jas photo is her. Trafficking happens, but it's not middle class white ladies on cruise ships with their families.

This.

This makes the most sense.

If you’ve ever been in a cruise cabin, you know how small they are. The parents would be asleep in a bed between the balcony and bathroom. Opening the door would wake everyone up. It’s loud.

I think it’s very likely that she ended up in the ocean, but the door leading from the balcony into the cabin was left 10-14” open, per Amy’s dad. Either she or her brother had left it open. Her dad also says “something” awoke him around 6am. The something could have been Amy exiting the cabin into a hallway. There were young women on the ship who had spent time talking to Amy and claim they saw her take an elevator going up with Yellow (the musician) around 6am, but only Yellow came back down.

I’m not convinced she was smuggled off the ship, but there is no way that a scan card system is infallible. Shit happens and there isn’t 100% compliance with official procedures. A crew member would know how to sneak people or things off the ship.

The timeline isn’t exact.

And there tend to be a decent number of crew and passengers up and about at 6am (especially on a port day).

I think those girls might have seen them together earlier. Maybe.

But how could they see them going off together and him returning alone? Were they just parked by the elevator?

If that was the case, it would point towards a sexual assault and murder, not holding her prisoner someplace and finding a way to sneak her off a ship during a port day where they scan everyone getting off the boat.

I didn’t think it was an elevator. … The two girls said after they left the bar they weren’t quite ready to go to bed so they went up on the top deck to hang out. They claim they saw Amy and Yellow walking around there, but remember this was in the middle of the night after drinking and they didn’t know Amy personally.

No, their memories were very specific.

Women are never believed.

It is like they are children or assumed to be confused.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there enough runaways that could be used for sex trafficking. Why take her? I knew Any Bradley, she was not particularly attractive and would have been very difficult to control.

I personally thought it was odd how the family thought she was so attractive. Like how they kept saying how much attention she got from staff. She was average at best. I hate to be that person, but they are delusional.

This.

Really gorgeous sex workers are not kept in low rent brothels in the Caribbean.

And she was a bit old at 23 for kidnapping for that purpose. They usually target teen girls. She didn’t even look young for her age.

I think it was likely that she did get off the ship to score drugs and incurred a drug debt that she was working off. Still tragic.

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Anonymous wrote:That bass player didn't smuggle her out in a suitcase. That's craziness.

I also don't believe any of the sightings. Eye witnesses sightings are notoriously inaccurate. Our memories are more fallible that we think.

I'm very sorry for her family that we don't know what happened. They seem very loving and dedicated.

Very odd that Yellow’s own daughter verified that he took multiple passenger photographs from the ship for his own private collection at home.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there enough runaways that could be used for sex trafficking. Why take her? I knew Any Bradley, she was not particularly attractive and would have been very difficult to control.

I personally thought it was odd how the family thought she was so attractive. Like how they kept saying how much attention she got from staff. She was average at best. I hate to be that person, but they are delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still stuck on the shoes. Why leave your shoes on the deck and walk around barefoot on the ship? The rest of her shoes were accounted for. If she had used the small table to hoist herself up if she wanted to lean further over to throw up, wouldn’t the table have fallen over if her foot slipped and she fell over? Does anyone know if the table was found upright? I guess we won’t know since the cleaning people cleaned the cabin but did they touch the deck? Anyway-she wasn’t trafficked. She leaned too far out either to take a photo or bc she was sick. I feel for the parents but they seem to have created an entire story in their heads.

I’ve only watched the first episode and the detail about the shoes has stuck with me as well. I don’t think the table would necessarily tip over if she stood on it and fell overboard. If she were going to leave the room to wander the ship, surely she’d slip on her easily accessible sandals along the way.