Anonymous wrote:I feel that yet again, the social extroverts are advantaged in this new scenario.

College apps were probably the last bastion of selection based on achievement (and nebulous other activities) without a direct social component. It can give a leg up to intelligent kids who are shy in-person, but can express themselves well on paper. These are 17 year olds! They're allowed to be uncertain and lack confidence in their public persona! They have lots of growing to do.

If you insert a live video where kids need to talk to show off how mature they are... it will only select for that portion of the population who can act like that (regardless of whether or not they truly are like that).

So, this is not an improvement. Like selections based on extra-curriculars and sports, it's just another way of ignoring academic achievement, which should be the main criteria for university admissions. US colleges thinks they're holding a popularity contest. Universities should educate the brightest, not the most popular.

Anonymous wrote:I feel that yet again, the social extroverts are advantaged in this new scenario.

College apps were probably the last bastion of selection based on achievement (and nebulous other activities) without a direct social component. It can give a leg up to intelligent kids who are shy in-person, but can express themselves well on paper. These are 17 year olds! They're allowed to be uncertain and lack confidence in their public persona! They have lots of growing to do.

If you insert a live video where kids need to talk to show off how mature they are... it will only select for that portion of the population who can act like that (regardless of whether or not they truly are like that).

So, this is not an improvement. Like selections based on extra-curriculars and sports, it's just another way of ignoring academic achievement, which should be the main criteria for university admissions. US colleges thinks they're holding a popularity contest. Universities should educate the brightest, not the most popular.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.

https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot

It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.

So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?

That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.

DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.

Where did I say that? It was required for my DS's HS application for Riverdale in the Bronx. It's conducted by an outside company that provides the school with a report.

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Anonymous wrote:This gimmick is definitely advantageous to the rich kids, especially the private school kids. They can easily fake this by getting lots of coaching. Again middle class kids are screwed.

Exactly. This will spawn an entire new industry/sub-industry of prep-classes and tutors. One more thing to add to the schedule of SAT/ACT classes and private counselor etc sessions. No surprise it’s founded by Khan of Khan academy.

Feels like a slimy effort to expand his portfolio and make more $$$$

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Anonymous wrote:This gimmick is definitely advantageous to the rich kids, especially the private school kids. They can easily fake this by getting lots of coaching. Again middle class kids are screwed.

Exactly. This will spawn an entire new industry/sub-industry of prep-classes and tutors. One more thing to add to the schedule of SAT/ACT classes and private counselor etc sessions. No surprise it’s founded by Khan of Khan academy.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.

https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot

It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.

So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?

That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.

DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.

https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot

It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.

So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?

That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.

DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.

Anonymous wrote:This gimmick is definitely advantageous to the rich kids, especially the private school kids. They can easily fake this by getting lots of coaching. Again middle class kids are screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.

https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot

It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.

So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?

That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.

https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot

It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.

So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?

Anonymous wrote:Is this for this cycle - Seniors 2026?

Yuck

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.

https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot

It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.

So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?

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Anonymous wrote:Unclear?

But there’s a reason they are all jumping on “Glimpse” videos. They want to see kids talk off the cuff for 120 seconds in their own words looking at a camera.

Think they are trying to filter out for kids who aren’t able to socially integrate.

Or, the more likely reason is they want to see the kids ethnicity so they can continue using that for admissions without putting it on paper.