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Anonymous wrote:Why for the life of me would anyone would sractch swimming in finals at PVS LC Age Group Champs in order to rest up for NVSL Divisionals is beyone me. Swimming in finals at PVS Age Group Champs is truly a much bigger achievement/accomplishment than participating in NVSL Divisionals and IAS. Amateur Hour indeed.

No 10 year-old dreams about long course, they dream about all-stars.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:In case people lost track of the original questions:
How are you approaching the balance between PVS Champs finals on Friday and Saturday’s divisionals? If your swimmer makes finals Friday night and also has a really early divisionals meet Saturday, will your swimmer scratch or swim Friday night? If the swimmer scratches Friday finals, are they banned from swimming the rest of LC Meet? Would love to hear from experienced parents who have juggled this and gain advice for 12U swimmers.

If your kid signed up for Friday events at PVS age group champs and you think he/she will make finals then you should definitely encourage them to swim those events. Granted it wasn't the same weekend last year, but the NVSL kids who made those finals had plenty of margin for error in qualifying for NVSL all-stars. A little bit of extra rest isn't going to made a huge difference for swimmers at that level in a 50 meter race, particularly is the primary goal is to achieve an all-star qualifying time. I mean so what if the top 12u swimmer is a little slow and ends up 5th overall at divisionals, they're still swimming the next weekend at all-stars if that's what you, and they, are worried about.

My child has a chance to make PVS finals. Seeded 19,20,21 (I think) in best three events.

Child is not ranked in the NVSL top 20 of any 50 stroke, and who knows about IM. Will need to be at full strength- not fast enough sleepwalk into a top 18 time for All-stars.

Many of the kids that make finals will have no problem making all-stars. For some kids, that is not the case at all.

Not buying it. My kid has barely made NVSL all stars several times without coming close to finals at PVS LC champs that same summer.

My child was in multiple A finals at PVS champs in longer events the same year they were 24th and 29th overall in NVSL and sat out All Stars. 50 free is not the same as 200s of stroke (or even 200 free)

Let's stick to the 12U kids that the OP was asking about. Last year, one NVSL boy made the A final in 11-12 200 free at the PVS LC meet. Same boy was top 5 in 50 back at NVSL Divisionals and at NSVL All Stars and top 10 in IM at both events. 12U kids making A finals at PVS champs aren't missing NVSL All Stars unless something crazy happens.

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It really is. The whole forum is sad most of the time though.

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Anonymous wrote:Why for the life of me would anyone would sractch swimming in finals at PVS LC Age Group Champs in order to rest up for NVSL Divisionals is beyone me. Swimming in finals at PVS Age Group Champs is truly a much bigger achievement/accomplishment than participating in NVSL Divisionals and IAS. Amateur Hour indeed.

No 10 year-old dreams about long course, they dream about all-stars.

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Anonymous wrote:In case people lost track of the original questions:
How are you approaching the balance between PVS Champs finals on Friday and Saturday’s divisionals? If your swimmer makes finals Friday night and also has a really early divisionals meet Saturday, will your swimmer scratch or swim Friday night? If the swimmer scratches Friday finals, are they banned from swimming the rest of LC Meet? Would love to hear from experienced parents who have juggled this and gain advice for 12U swimmers.

If your kid signed up for Friday events at PVS age group champs and you think he/she will make finals then you should definitely encourage them to swim those events. Granted it wasn't the same weekend last year, but the NVSL kids who made those finals had plenty of margin for error in qualifying for NVSL all-stars. A little bit of extra rest isn't going to made a huge difference for swimmers at that level in a 50 meter race, particularly is the primary goal is to achieve an all-star qualifying time. I mean so what if the top 12u swimmer is a little slow and ends up 5th overall at divisionals, they're still swimming the next weekend at all-stars if that's what you, and they, are worried about.

My child has a chance to make PVS finals. Seeded 19,20,21 (I think) in best three events.

Child is not ranked in the NVSL top 20 of any 50 stroke, and who knows about IM. Will need to be at full strength- not fast enough sleepwalk into a top 18 time for All-stars.

Many of the kids that make finals will have no problem making all-stars. For some kids, that is not the case at all.

Not buying it. My kid has barely made NVSL all stars several times without coming close to finals at PVS LC champs that same summer.

My child was in multiple A finals at PVS champs in longer events the same year they were 24th and 29th overall in NVSL and sat out All Stars. 50 free is not the same as 200s of stroke (or even 200 free)

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Anonymous wrote:In case people lost track of the original questions:
How are you approaching the balance between PVS Champs finals on Friday and Saturday’s divisionals? If your swimmer makes finals Friday night and also has a really early divisionals meet Saturday, will your swimmer scratch or swim Friday night? If the swimmer scratches Friday finals, are they banned from swimming the rest of LC Meet? Would love to hear from experienced parents who have juggled this and gain advice for 12U swimmers.

If your kid signed up for Friday events at PVS age group champs and you think he/she will make finals then you should definitely encourage them to swim those events. Granted it wasn't the same weekend last year, but the NVSL kids who made those finals had plenty of margin for error in qualifying for NVSL all-stars. A little bit of extra rest isn't going to made a huge difference for swimmers at that level in a 50 meter race, particularly is the primary goal is to achieve an all-star qualifying time. I mean so what if the top 12u swimmer is a little slow and ends up 5th overall at divisionals, they're still swimming the next weekend at all-stars if that's what you, and they, are worried about.

My child has a chance to make PVS finals. Seeded 19,20,21 (I think) in best three events.

Child is not ranked in the NVSL top 20 of any 50 stroke, and who knows about IM. Will need to be at full strength- not fast enough sleepwalk into a top 18 time for All-stars.

Many of the kids that make finals will have no problem making all-stars. For some kids, that is not the case at all.

Not buying it. My kid has barely made NVSL all stars several times without coming close to finals at PVS LC champs that same summer.

My child was in multiple A finals at PVS champs in longer events the same year they were 24th and 29th overall in NVSL and sat out All Stars. 50 free is not the same as 200s of stroke (or even 200 free)

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Anonymous wrote:In case people lost track of the original questions:
How are you approaching the balance between PVS Champs finals on Friday and Saturday’s divisionals? If your swimmer makes finals Friday night and also has a really early divisionals meet Saturday, will your swimmer scratch or swim Friday night? If the swimmer scratches Friday finals, are they banned from swimming the rest of LC Meet? Would love to hear from experienced parents who have juggled this and gain advice for 12U swimmers.

If your kid signed up for Friday events at PVS age group champs and you think he/she will make finals then you should definitely encourage them to swim those events. Granted it wasn't the same weekend last year, but the NVSL kids who made those finals had plenty of margin for error in qualifying for NVSL all-stars. A little bit of extra rest isn't going to made a huge difference for swimmers at that level in a 50 meter race, particularly is the primary goal is to achieve an all-star qualifying time. I mean so what if the top 12u swimmer is a little slow and ends up 5th overall at divisionals, they're still swimming the next weekend at all-stars if that's what you, and they, are worried about.

My child has a chance to make PVS finals. Seeded 19,20,21 (I think) in best three events.

Child is not ranked in the NVSL top 20 of any 50 stroke, and who knows about IM. Will need to be at full strength- not fast enough sleepwalk into a top 18 time for All-stars.

Many of the kids that make finals will have no problem making all-stars. For some kids, that is not the case at all.

Not buying it. My kid has barely made NVSL all stars several times without coming close to finals at PVS LC champs that same summer.

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Anonymous wrote:In case people lost track of the original questions:
How are you approaching the balance between PVS Champs finals on Friday and Saturday’s divisionals? If your swimmer makes finals Friday night and also has a really early divisionals meet Saturday, will your swimmer scratch or swim Friday night? If the swimmer scratches Friday finals, are they banned from swimming the rest of LC Meet? Would love to hear from experienced parents who have juggled this and gain advice for 12U swimmers.

If your kid signed up for Friday events at PVS age group champs and you think he/she will make finals then you should definitely encourage them to swim those events. Granted it wasn't the same weekend last year, but the NVSL kids who made those finals had plenty of margin for error in qualifying for NVSL all-stars. A little bit of extra rest isn't going to made a huge difference for swimmers at that level in a 50 meter race, particularly is the primary goal is to achieve an all-star qualifying time. I mean so what if the top 12u swimmer is a little slow and ends up 5th overall at divisionals, they're still swimming the next weekend at all-stars if that's what you, and they, are worried about.

My child has a chance to make PVS finals. Seeded 19,20,21 (I think) in best three events.

Child is not ranked in the NVSL top 20 of any 50 stroke, and who knows about IM. Will need to be at full strength- not fast enough sleepwalk into a top 18 time for All-stars.

Many of the kids that make finals will have no problem making all-stars. For some kids, that is not the case at all.

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Anonymous wrote:In case people lost track of the original questions:
How are you approaching the balance between PVS Champs finals on Friday and Saturday’s divisionals? If your swimmer makes finals Friday night and also has a really early divisionals meet Saturday, will your swimmer scratch or swim Friday night? If the swimmer scratches Friday finals, are they banned from swimming the rest of LC Meet? Would love to hear from experienced parents who have juggled this and gain advice for 12U swimmers.

If your kid signed up for Friday events at PVS age group champs and you think he/she will make finals then you should definitely encourage them to swim those events. Granted it wasn't the same weekend last year, but the NVSL kids who made those finals had plenty of margin for error in qualifying for NVSL all-stars. A little bit of extra rest isn't going to made a huge difference for swimmers at that level in a 50 meter race, particularly is the primary goal is to achieve an all-star qualifying time. I mean so what if the top 12u swimmer is a little slow and ends up 5th overall at divisionals, they're still swimming the next weekend at all-stars if that's what you, and they, are worried about.

Anonymous wrote:Why for the life of me would anyone would sractch swimming in finals at PVS LC Age Group Champs in order to rest up for NVSL Divisionals is beyone me. Swimming in finals at PVS Age Group Champs is truly a much bigger achievement/accomplishment than participating in NVSL Divisionals and IAS. Amateur Hour indeed.