Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:19
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
This is straight up propaganda.
Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.
I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.
the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.
Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.
Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.
you're describing the least ideal hospital birth and the most ideal home birth.
if we could guarantee a highly-qualified midwife at every home birth I would feel better, but we can't... We do have a lot more ability to monitor the staff and ensure proper ones at a hospital. This is absurd to even discuss.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:14
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
This is straight up propaganda.
Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.
I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.
the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.
Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.
Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.
Homebirth midwives are laughably untrained compared to OBs and even L&D nurses. You’re much better off with a doctor overseeing multiple laboring women at once than one crunchy “birth workers” with you all day.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:11
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
This is straight up propaganda.
Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.
I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.
the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.
Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.
Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:02
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
This is straight up propaganda.
Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.
I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.
the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:01
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
This is straight up propaganda.
Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.
I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:52
Subject: Re:My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So idiotic. These women insisting on home births are always attention seeking narcissists.
seriously, should be grounds to have the kid taken away
Having an abortion should also be grounds for taking your kids away. If you killed the first one what’s keeping you from killing the rest of them?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:40
Subject: Re:My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:So idiotic. These women insisting on home births are always attention seeking narcissists.
seriously, should be grounds to have the kid taken away
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:34
Subject: Re:My sister wants a homebirth
So idiotic. These women insisting on home births are always attention seeking narcissists.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 16:18
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Millions of babies were/are born this way it’s fine.
A lot of babies and women die this way. Birth isn’t a safe, gauzy pastel fantasy. It’s dangerous.
If you want to accept an increased risk if death or disability, good luck to you.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 16:11
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
This is straight up propaganda.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 15:36
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
I wonder what percentage of the pro-homebirthers are also vaccine refuseniks. In both instances, all one has to do is walk through a graveyard and count the number of babies/toddlers who died prior to the 1950s (prior to vaccines and when most babies were still being born at home).
Anonymous
07/14/2025 15:29
Subject: Re:My sister wants a homebirth
NP. The homebirth people are absolutely insane, OP. You can see it in this thread. Don’t expect rationality from these folks.
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do here. I think you will need to get help for your own very justified grief and anxiety, this is going to be hard for you. I’m so sorry.
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do here. I think you will need to get help for your own very justified grief and anxiety, this is going to be hard for you. I’m so sorry.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 14:56
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:OP your sister truly doesn't care about the outcome. She can't even feign ignorance after what happened. For some people their "experience" matters more than the baby.
It's horrible but you just have to detach.
+1000000
Anonymous
07/14/2025 14:55
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.
BS hospitals are always safer than a home birth you are an idiot
Why the hell do you think less women die in childbirth now???
Anonymous
07/14/2025 14:54
Subject: My sister wants a homebirth
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.
That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.
Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.
Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.
Obviously.
My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.