Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:50     Subject: Re:20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
I guess they will all need to get careers in healthcare.

In 1990 healthcare wasn’t the top employer in any state.

In 2024 it’s the top employer in 39 states.

Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 17:50     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a marketing team of 10-12 when AI can do their jobs in 10 seconds?

The company I work for got rid of the marketing department in late 2023. We kept a senior employee and one lower level employee. They are responsible for proofing and humanizing the AI output.

Our open rate hovers at 43%, which if you know anything about targeted marketing campaigns, that's a phenomenal open rate, and significantly up from our previous rate of 28%. The conversion rate also increased from 4% to 7%, which again, 7% is phenomenal.

We eliminated half of our technical writers in 2024. Again, AI is doing 80% of the work and the humans left are proofers and humanizers to the output.

And we upgraded our AI package this year to one that is sales-lead focused. So far, ~4 months in, we're getting good, quality AI generated sales leads, which has increased productivity for our sales team.



Why haven’t you been eliminated yet? Surely AI could do your job better, too? Why are you stiffling company profits by not being replaced by AI? Don’t you care about pushing that margin from 43% up to 43.2% by eliminating your job?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 17:13     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks to AI, it's happening. Coders, lawyers, most content creators (PR, technical writers), HR, payroll, etc. all going to be out of work.

It's going to be UGLY... how much blame will Trump get?


Let's see. Democrats have given big tech only everything they could want. Biden signed executive orders trying to make AI a schedule A occupation such that they don't need to do any workforce searches when they try to get a green card.

Seriously what else could Democrats have done to bring this on, that they didn't do?

I am in tech and AI, but there was absolutely no reason to bring this about so fast we've argued numerous times you don't need to bring in so many techies. We didn't need to create artificial labor wage bubbles for the stock market. But, hey I've got the AI and you've got it coming.

let's see... the Rs signed into the Budget Bill, which Trump agreed to, to prevent states from regulating AI, meaning even if the states wanted to curb AI in the workplace, they can't.

MAGA /s
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 16:09     Subject: Re:20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Job loss due to automation has been predicted since the start of the industrial revolution. We haven't seen mass unemployment yet. I'll believe it when I see it. Jobs will change, but there will be jobs.


My thoughts exactly.

As an aside, it is great to see young people deciding not to go to college and learning a trade instead - auto mechanic, plumbing, carpentry, welding......all jobs that pay well and will be around for some time to come.


Auto mechanic is definitely getting replaced by AI. Already you plug the car into a computer and it diagnoses the problem.



Hahahahaaha!

You think trouble codes “diagnose the problem”?!?!?


Hahahahaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!


This is why I’m NEVER going to be out of work. Because of people like PP.


That multi-cylinder misfire code your car is throwing doesn’t specify if the misfire is caused by fouled plugs or failing ingnituon coil packs or intake port carbon build up preventing valve closure. So a tech needs to trouble shoot the cause of the code - it isn’t diagnosed by the computer.



Hilarious!
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 15:59     Subject: Re:20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Job loss due to automation has been predicted since the start of the industrial revolution. We haven't seen mass unemployment yet. I'll believe it when I see it. Jobs will change, but there will be jobs.


My thoughts exactly.

As an aside, it is great to see young people deciding not to go to college and learning a trade instead - auto mechanic, plumbing, carpentry, welding......all jobs that pay well and will be around for some time to come.


Unless no one has money to hire these trades people because they lost thier jobs. I guess trades people can work for trades people, but at lower rates because more carpenters than needed?


Yes, it’s going to be very bad for everyone. And Trump isn’t doing ANYTHING to prepare us.


I’ll be just fine. My profession can’t be automated or done by a robot.

A lot of people on this forum are probably f**ked tho.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 14:07     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:Thanks to AI, it's happening. Coders, lawyers, most content creators (PR, technical writers), HR, payroll, etc. all going to be out of work.

It's going to be UGLY... how much blame will Trump get?


Let's see. Democrats have given big tech only everything they could want. Biden signed executive orders trying to make AI a schedule A occupation such that they don't need to do any workforce searches when they try to get a green card.

Seriously what else could Democrats have done to bring this on, that they didn't do?

I am in tech and AI, but there was absolutely no reason to bring this about so fast we've argued numerous times you don't need to bring in so many techies. We didn't need to create artificial labor wage bubbles for the stock market. But, hey I've got the AI and you've got it coming.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 13:42     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:Thanks to AI, it's happening. Coders, lawyers, most content creators (PR, technical writers), HR, payroll, etc. all going to be out of work.

It's going to be UGLY... how much blame will Trump get?


In the name of equity, trying to get those numbers to match his base's unemployment numbers: "no magas it's not you, look at those with a grad level degree they can't work either" all to soothe magas to feel better about themselves, daddy gonna make it all ok, ok? crap
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 12:33     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Bring it!!!!
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:56     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a marketing team of 10-12 when AI can do their jobs in 10 seconds?

The company I work for got rid of the marketing department in late 2023. We kept a senior employee and one lower level employee. They are responsible for proofing and humanizing the AI output.

Our open rate hovers at 43%, which if you know anything about targeted marketing campaigns, that's a phenomenal open rate, and significantly up from our previous rate of 28%. The conversion rate also increased from 4% to 7%, which again, 7% is phenomenal.

We eliminated half of our technical writers in 2024. Again, AI is doing 80% of the work and the humans left are proofers and humanizers to the output.

And we upgraded our AI package this year to one that is sales-lead focused. So far, ~4 months in, we're getting good, quality AI generated sales leads, which has increased productivity for our sales team.


When everyone catches up your open rate won’t be 43%. You’ll have to innovate and find new ways to compete to make $$. Humans like humans, not chat bots (except freaks like Thiel).


It sounds like you’re not using the latest technologies from OpenAI and Google. You’re not going to be able to tell the difference between an AI and a human unless they’re sitting right in front of you.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:54     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP, you’re celebrating job loss to AI way too early. I give it a decade before this becomes reality. They need more data to train models on. The free internet isn’t going to cut it.


That’s not where this technology is right now. The focus isn’t simply on “more data”. The focus is on better use of the existing models through agentic and other approaches. That’s where the lift is coming from.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:37     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks to AI, it's happening. Coders, lawyers, most content creators (PR, technical writers), HR, payroll, etc. all going to be out of work.

It's going to be UGLY... how much blame will Trump get?


He will get no blame because no one holds him accountable for anything. But the layoffs aare not because of AI but rather the slowdown of the economy due to Trump's tariffs and corresponding government and corporate layoffs.


The public is very much holding him accountable.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:34     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are people going to pay for whatever it is AI will give us if they are unemployed?


Oh, it's a terrible idea that will just generate a lot of economic chaos. There will be some winners, but it won't be you, and it definitely won't be most Trump voters.


Actually, many Trump voters have jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. They are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, dog groomers, farmers, etc.


LOL. If computers are doing surgery, they can weld and wire.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:33     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why media companies don't outsource most journalism jobs.


Because they just lay the journalists off instead.


Again, people. Do you know how many people unsubscribed from WaPo and NYT and are now getting news from real humans on IG? It’s like having a local reporter you trust.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:30     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a marketing team of 10-12 when AI can do their jobs in 10 seconds?

The company I work for got rid of the marketing department in late 2023. We kept a senior employee and one lower level employee. They are responsible for proofing and humanizing the AI output.

Our open rate hovers at 43%, which if you know anything about targeted marketing campaigns, that's a phenomenal open rate, and significantly up from our previous rate of 28%. The conversion rate also increased from 4% to 7%, which again, 7% is phenomenal.

We eliminated half of our technical writers in 2024. Again, AI is doing 80% of the work and the humans left are proofers and humanizers to the output.

And we upgraded our AI package this year to one that is sales-lead focused. So far, ~4 months in, we're getting good, quality AI generated sales leads, which has increased productivity for our sales team.


When everyone catches up your open rate won’t be 43%. You’ll have to innovate and find new ways to compete to make $$. Humans like humans, not chat bots (except freaks like Thiel).
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 10:30     Subject: 20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?
It's very difficult to predict what is next. It seems like corporations would love to retrench their positions. However, on the other hand from what I have seen Microsoft has been laying off people to pay for the hardware. EG it remains to be seen how efficient they actually are then. Here comes the big cone. Get ready.

AI will potentially kill Microsoft. Think about it. Microsoft it essentially a pile of code. It used to be much harder to write a pile of code. Now it's much eaiser for a startup to do whatever Microsoft is doing. I already use AI to code around all the glitchy gatcha's and kludges Microsoft put in. "AI write a program to fix my Outlook and Gmail interoperability issues..." Done. Many companies are like that.

It's going to get weird.