Anonymous wrote:13:03 beautifully illustrates the evil machine maga wishes to correct. The machine is make people sick via food, air, water, etc., thus forcing them into lifelong, the painful sick care industry.

That was done by GOP? Wake up!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably appropriate to mention, there were roads *before* there were taxes.

Our interstate highway system has been crucial to establishing the US as a thriving economy. We make choices as a society based on our values and what we believe will benefit the common good. We express these choices through collective action via government. Always have. Always will.

In other news, where have the taxes on gasoline gone that were for the "highway system"???

Anonymous wrote:13:03 beautifully illustrates the evil machine maga wishes to correct. The machine is make people sick via food, air, water, etc., thus forcing them into lifelong, the painful sick care industry.

These are the "sane" people who wanted to put everyone in camps over covid if they didn't get their way. ^^^

Anonymous wrote:MAGA Dimwit: Ever heard the phrase "a rising tide lifts all boats"?

It means, for example:
Everyone benefits from an educated populace,
Everyone benefits from an populace with access to decent healthcare,
Everyone benefits from a public service infrastructure that, say, fights fires, or chases bank robbers, or maintains roadways, or makes certain foods and medicines are safe to consumer, and so on...

Now, and stay with me here, as a corollary, everyone suffers from the absence of those things. In the case of healthcare, for example, even if you're healthy, having lots of people who aren't healthy is ultimately going to affect you, negatively, one way or the other. If children can't go to school, or if people can't eat, guess what, you will be affected, directly or indirectly, sooner or later, probably sooner.

A rising tide lifts all boats... and a receding/lowering one lowers all boats.

If you think about it, it's sort of a Christian concept: Care about other people (if only for the reason that not caring about others will ultimately mean their hardships come back on you, at some point, in some way.) It's also just a nice way to be, but it's a practical one, too.

MAGA doesn't care about about real Christian concepts.

Anonymous wrote:Serious question: for those who believe in government-run health care systems, why don't you move to a country that has such a thing?

Immigrants for thee but not for me!

Cuts to Medicaid will kill off lots of the senior citizens on fixed to little income but I guess that’s what republicans want

We can fund the pentagon but can’t fund healthcare

If I could, I would. Believe me. Disgusted the USA passed this stupid bill.

Why can't you? If there is a place in the world that would meet your needs better than the US, then you should go there.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

As civilization progresses, we get more things and now we understand that the pursuit of Happiness doesn’t happen if you are suffering from never ending physical pain. We can also do something about it.

The declaration doesn’t say we all have to suffer in order to get these things, but that they are unalienable rights.

When you know better, you do better and that my friend is the history of the living document. the standards of life and happiness change with the times. DO you think in 1776 an IVF petri dish would be considered a life? No, because they couldn’t even imagine it. Things change dude.

The Declaration of Independence proclaimed rights to be free from government intrusion in one's life not that that same government must do something for a person.

Incorrect.

Anonymous wrote:Serious question: for those who believe in government-run health care systems, why don't you move to a country that has such a thing?

If I could, I would. Believe me. Disgusted the USA passed this stupid bill.

It’s just good government to subsidize healthcare for all. When the cost overwhelms someone who needs treatment, the providers have to charge more to others to make up for the loss. It is more cost effective to cover all equally.

MAGA Dimwit: Ever heard the phrase "a rising tide lifts all boats"?

It means, for example:
Everyone benefits from an educated populace,
Everyone benefits from an populace with access to decent healthcare,
Everyone benefits from a public service infrastructure that, say, fights fires, or chases bank robbers, or maintains roadways, or makes certain foods and medicines are safe to consumer, and so on...

Now, and stay with me here, as a corollary, everyone suffers from the absence of those things. In the case of healthcare, for example, even if you're healthy, having lots of people who aren't healthy is ultimately going to affect you, negatively, one way or the other. If children can't go to school, or if people can't eat, guess what, you will be affected, directly or indirectly, sooner or later, probably sooner.

A rising tide lifts all boats... and a receding/lowering one lowers all boats.

If you think about it, it's sort of a Christian concept: Care about other people (if only for the reason that not caring about others will ultimately mean their hardships come back on you, at some point, in some way.) It's also just a nice way to be, but it's a practical one, too.

Anonymous wrote:Serious question: for those who believe in government-run health care systems, why don't you move to a country that has such a thing?

Um, maybe because this is their country?!

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Anonymous wrote:It seemed strange to me at first to declare health care as a right. It's certainly not enshrined in our Constipation. However, if someone gets shot out in the street and gets dropped off at a hospital, there is no way to deny them health care, insurance or not. If it is impossible to not help someone in a health related crisis then it is essentially a right, because in spite of our faults we are a social species.

I'm not sure what's enshrined in your Constipation. But good for you for highlighting it. There should be a national discussion. There are others who suffer.

If that's where it is enshrined, I have a right ot more Malox!

Serious question: for those who believe in government-run health care systems, why don't you move to a country that has such a thing?