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Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because its a violation of our civil rights laws. Omg, why can't you guys get it? We arent going to make it legal to discriminate against white people and Asians. Okay? Give it up.

Stop lying. You are scared that if a TRUE merit system is in place, white people won't have the only seats at the table. Oh you poor, poor, unqualified white people.

So many in this thread live in bizarro world.

DEI is not based on merit.

Correct. This is what DEI means: we will not hire primarily based upon merit, experience, or education but by gender (female), sexuality (LGBTQ), and ethnicity (non-White). This is because of our perceived injustices in the past; therefore, in our wisdom, two wrongs actually do make a right.

No, what DEI means is that given two equal candidates, if one is from a "protected class" they should be given the nod. No one is hiring underqualified or unqualified candidates.

You are absolutely wrong about that. Unqualified candidates are hired ALL the time.

DP. Many of the unqualified ones are white men.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because its a violation of our civil rights laws. Omg, why can't you guys get it? We arent going to make it legal to discriminate against white people and Asians. Okay? Give it up.

Stop lying. You are scared that if a TRUE merit system is in place, white people won't have the only seats at the table. Oh you poor, poor, unqualified white people.

So many in this thread live in bizarro world.

DEI is not based on merit.

Correct. This is what DEI means: we will not hire primarily based upon merit, experience, or education but by gender (female), sexuality (LGBTQ), and ethnicity (non-White). This is because of our perceived injustices in the past; therefore, in our wisdom, two wrongs actually do make a right.

No, what DEI means is that given two equal candidates, if one is from a "protected class" they should be given the nod. No one is hiring underqualified or unqualified candidates.

You are absolutely wrong about that. Unqualified candidates are hired ALL the time.

And yet there’s no outrage from MAGA about all the unqualified people running our country, our counterterrorism efforts, FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because its a violation of our civil rights laws. Omg, why can't you guys get it? We arent going to make it legal to discriminate against white people and Asians. Okay? Give it up.

Stop lying. You are scared that if a TRUE merit system is in place, white people won't have the only seats at the table. Oh you poor, poor, unqualified white people.

So many in this thread live in bizarro world.

DEI is not based on merit.

Correct. This is what DEI means: we will not hire primarily based upon merit, experience, or education but by gender (female), sexuality (LGBTQ), and ethnicity (non-White). This is because of our perceived injustices in the past; therefore, in our wisdom, two wrongs actually do make a right.

No, what DEI means is that given two equal candidates, if one is from a "protected class" they should be given the nod. No one is hiring underqualified or unqualified candidates.

You are absolutely wrong about that. Unqualified candidates are hired ALL the time.

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Asian female and despise DEI. That being said, I despise Trump and his admin even more!

To me, DEI as a concept is wrong. Merit has to come first. Always. A person will succeed but it has to be on their efforts not because they are white or black or yellow or whatever. DEI is an insult to anyone who has any self respect and most people who are condoning it are white who think they know why it's important. I've never met a self respecting minority who wholly embraces DEI because they would not be judged on their merits but many of course love that they don't need to be and that's why it can exist.

I don't agree either with Miller's ilk pushing this in a manner that's strong arming those in leadership. It ought to be a debated policy change. I don't think it hurts whites as much as it's unfair to them and unfair to anyone who cares about merit. But taking down this policy isn't about ordering it, rather needs to be a process that isn't based on fear tactics.

It came about because merit wasn’t used as a criteria. Why did the felon terminate more women and POC? That’s what you’ll see with the erosion of DEI. Do you really think they’re going to magically hire an Asian man (like President Ono? LOL) or a black woman? Get real. They’re going to hire Pete Hegseth.

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Asian female and despise DEI. That being said, I despise Trump and his admin even more!

To me, DEI as a concept is wrong. Merit has to come first. Always. A person will succeed but it has to be on their efforts not because they are white or black or yellow or whatever. DEI is an insult to anyone who has any self respect and most people who are condoning it are white who think they know why it's important. I've never met a self respecting minority who wholly embraces DEI because they would not be judged on their merits but many of course love that they don't need to be and that's why it can exist.

I don't agree either with Miller's ilk pushing this in a manner that's strong arming those in leadership. It ought to be a debated policy change. I don't think it hurts whites as much as it's unfair to them and unfair to anyone who cares about merit. But taking down this policy isn't about ordering it, rather needs to be a process that isn't based on fear tactics.

Like most people with common sense, I despise Trump as well and I also totally agree with you regarding merit always needing to be the number one and in most cases the only factor in determining an applicant's credentials.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because its a violation of our civil rights laws. Omg, why can't you guys get it? We arent going to make it legal to discriminate against white people and Asians. Okay? Give it up.

Stop lying. You are scared that if a TRUE merit system is in place, white people won't have the only seats at the table. Oh you poor, poor, unqualified white people.

So many in this thread live in bizarro world.

DEI is not based on merit.

Correct. This is what DEI means: we will not hire primarily based upon merit, experience, or education but by gender (female), sexuality (LGBTQ), and ethnicity (non-White). This is because of our perceived injustices in the past; therefore, in our wisdom, two wrongs actually do make a right.

No, what DEI means is that given two equal candidates, if one is from a "protected class" they should be given the nod. No one is hiring underqualified or unqualified candidates.

I am old enough to remember all of those conservatives who were up in arms about censorship, the suppression of free thought, cancel culture, etc.?

The reality is, it was all projection, naturally.

Anonymous wrote:I'm an Asian female and despise DEI. That being said, I despise Trump and his admin even more!

To me, DEI as a concept is wrong. Merit has to come first. Always. A person will succeed but it has to be on their efforts not because they are white or black or yellow or whatever. DEI is an insult to anyone who has any self respect and most people who are condoning it are white who think they know why it's important. I've never met a self respecting minority who wholly embraces DEI because they would not be judged on their merits but many of course love that they don't need to be and that's why it can exist.

I don't agree either with Miller's ilk pushing this in a manner that's strong arming those in leadership. It ought to be a debated policy change. I don't think it hurts whites as much as it's unfair to them and unfair to anyone who cares about merit. But taking down this policy isn't about ordering it, rather needs to be a process that isn't based on fear tactics.

I agree with the bolded. The precedent that has been set in terms of government overreach and use of fear tactics is what bothers me the most about this case.

On the DEI issue, if you are Asian then at some point in time someone in your family line came from a largely homogenous Asian country. My roots are in a super homogenous European country where university admission is entirely based on performance on a single annual university entry exam--and nothing else. That's probably also the case in the Asian country(its) your relatives came from. But the US's experience is very different. It is a country of immigrants and has a history of forced migration (slavery), so it is very different than more homogenous countries that haven't had this experience. Can you understand why the approach here might be different and why addressing differences in access to employment, college admission, etc. may be necessary in such a heterogenous society?

I guarantee you that regardless of how poor or how limited resources you have, a person ambitious for success will find a way to achieve it. DEI or not I say this as someone who is a minority with immigrant parents who owns her own business. What we should do in the education front is find a way to take out the demographic piece altogether and simply judge on merit. If it's 90% non minorities who are the top 10% of the class so be it. You simply can't let someone else in just because they aren't white if they couldn't find a way to be up there. This is why this country really is failing. You can't limit anyone - not minorities but why would you limit white kids either? Simply because they are white? You have to work. Doesn't matter about anything else - you find a path for success. It's 100% doable if you commit. My whole childhood was a nightmare and I did it and I know many more who did too. The old boys network exists because it's a cultural decision. I worked in a field dominated by this and DEI doesn't make it better. You change it from the inside out. If the guys won't let me in as a female telling them they have to does not change their minds. Only I can impress them by my talents. And if I can't, I can't. Better to find another world where my efforts are appreciated. But allowing me entrance into a male dominated field doesn't do it - me breaking in and changing their minds so they see why it's right and better to let women in - that is effective and the right kind of change. That's called buy-in and there's many ways of achieving that over DEI policies which essentially is reverse discrimination. It's to rid people of guilt and take an easier path to change. Great in the beginning maybe but ultimately it's not lasting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because it is outright discrimination.
Thank you President Trump!

I assume this is a bot post.

They flood the zone with this sheet.

"Discrimination" against white men????!?

Lies lies lies.

They only started admitting women in the 1970s, after they were sued. My DD is a recent grad so I know a few things about the university. White males, particularly those in the ubiquitous frats, are very visible everywhere you go. Her major is dominated by white males. I don't think white males are suffering too much at UVA.

I'm an Asian female and despise DEI. That being said, I despise Trump and his admin even more!

To me, DEI as a concept is wrong. Merit has to come first. Always. A person will succeed but it has to be on their efforts not because they are white or black or yellow or whatever. DEI is an insult to anyone who has any self respect and most people who are condoning it are white who think they know why it's important. I've never met a self respecting minority who wholly embraces DEI because they would not be judged on their merits but many of course love that they don't need to be and that's why it can exist.

I don't agree either with Miller's ilk pushing this in a manner that's strong arming those in leadership. It ought to be a debated policy change. I don't think it hurts whites as much as it's unfair to them and unfair to anyone who cares about merit. But taking down this policy isn't about ordering it, rather needs to be a process that isn't based on fear tactics.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because its a violation of our civil rights laws. Omg, why can't you guys get it? We arent going to make it legal to discriminate against white people and Asians. Okay? Give it up.

Stop lying. You are scared that if a TRUE merit system is in place, white people won't have the only seats at the table. Oh you poor, poor, unqualified white people.

So many in this thread live in bizarro world.

DEI is not based on merit.

Correct. This is what DEI means: we will not hire primarily based upon merit, experience, or education but by gender (female), sexuality (LGBTQ), and ethnicity (non-White). This is because of our perceived injustices in the past; therefore, in our wisdom, two wrongs actually do make a right.

I’m an alum of UVA and former staff member of a department that was particularly known for being an old (white) boys’ club, before DEI efforts injected some much needed variance in the roster. Honestly, it was my time working there that made me a firm believer in DEI initiatives. It was truly a breath of fresh air, especially knowing the university of the 90s as an incredibly homogeneous experience. This is a huge step backwards for UVA.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because it is outright discrimination.
Thank you President Trump!

I assume this is a bot post.

They flood the zone with this sheet.

"Discrimination" against white men????!?

Lies lies lies.

Here's a quick deep dive into America First Legal Foundation, the nonprofit Stephen Miller founded which played a role in this case by alleging UVA was non-compliant with anti-DEI directives. Stephen Miller is still its president. If you already thought Miller plays an oversized role in our government, now we have confirmation that he is even more powerful since he has his own legal nonprofit that can go after his pet causes. Totally normal, right?

America First Legal Foundation (AFL) is a conservative 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization founded in 2021 by Stephen Miller. Based in Washington, D.C., AFL focuses on litigation to challenge perceived left-leaning policies, particularly those associated with the Biden administration, emphasizing administrative law and executive overreach. Its mission is to promote the rule of law, defend constitutional rights, and counter what it describes as "anti-American" policies, including issues related to immigration, diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), and free speech.

Leadership:

-Stephen Miller: Founder and President
-Gene Hamilton: Vice President and General Counsel, previously a Department of Justice official under Trump.
-Matthew Whitaker: Executive Director, former Acting U.S. Attorney General.
-Board of Directors: Includes notable Trump administration figures like Mark Meadows (former White House Chief of Staff).
-Staff: AFL operates with a small legal team (fewer than 10 lawyers), relying on external conservative law firms like Consovoy McCarthy and Jonathan Mitchell’s Austin-based office for high-profile cases.

*AFL has filed over 100 legal actions, including lawsuits and FOIA requests, targeting:

DEI Programs: AFL has challenged DEI initiatives at universities and corporations, alleging they violate civil rights laws by discriminating against certain groups (e.g., white males). It played a key role in pressuring the University of Virginia to dismantle its DEI programs, citing non-compliance with Title VI.

*Immigration Policies: AFL joined Texas in suing the Biden administration over border enforcement, arguing that policies exposed Americans to health risks. It also challenged debt relief for minority farmers under the American Rescue Plan Act, securing a 2021 injunction.

*Voter and Election Issues: AFL filed FOIA requests to investigate voter registration plans under Biden’s Executive Order 14019 and pursued legal efforts over alleged voter fraud in the 2022 elections.

*Corporate Practices: AFL has targeted companies like Disney, Nike, and the NFL, claiming their diversity policies discriminate. It also sent cease-and-desist letters to firms like PricewaterhouseCoopers for alleged illegal racial preferences.

*Government Transparency: AFL has sued agencies like the DOJ, FBI, and Department of State to obtain records, including those related to COVID-19 drug suppression, Biden’s policies, and FBI investigations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From trump because of DEI. Bastards! Why do they hate this much?

https://apnews.com/article/university-of-virginia-dei-james-ryan-6f8cfc43738944ca8164ab20814c5695

Because its a violation of our civil rights laws. Omg, why can't you guys get it? We arent going to make it legal to discriminate against white people and Asians. Okay? Give it up.

Stop lying. You are scared that if a TRUE merit system is in place, white people won't have the only seats at the table. Oh you poor, poor, unqualified white people.

So many in this thread live in bizarro world.

DEI is not based on merit.

Correct. This is what DEI means: we will not hire primarily based upon merit, experience, or education but by gender (female), sexuality (LGBTQ), and ethnicity (non-White). This is because of our perceived injustices in the past; therefore, in our wisdom, two wrongs actually do make a right.