Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 22:26     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, what religion are you?


I am not religious. My parents are Muslim but do not really practice either.


Most Iranians don’t practice but wouldn’t a war push the country more toward the right wing Islamic government. The ayatollah doesn’t seem so crazy right now with his great Satan talk
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 22:24     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:Well, Israel has been crying about Iran being close to nuclear ability since 2012 or 2015 or something. I think it was 2018 they were gonna have it in a couple wks! They were talking about it and then the next thing you know, it's a pre-emptive strike. Sorry but I question what shadiness is going on that Trump made a deal about with Israel because it's not about nuclear weapons.


Wrong, they were even crying about it in the late 1970s and early 80s.

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Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 21:56     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone really wants to prove they’re Iranian


Exactly. Except ALL the Iranians I know call themselves Persian.


Not true - married to a Persian/iranian and he and my children call themselves Iranian mostly. Sometimes we use Persian.

It is a complicated situation. Terrible regime, but also Netanyahu is controversial to say the least. Even if there were an attempt to depose the current regime - what happens next? Seeing Pahlavi’s comments and wondering how he thinks it would go down.

So saddened for the truly beautiful people of Iran, and Israel.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 21:13     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:Op, what religion are you?


I am not religious. My parents are Muslim but do not really practice either.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 21:12     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone really wants to prove they’re Iranian


Exactly. Except ALL the Iranians I know call themselves Persian.


DP. Same. But also, there's a reason for that...


I can promise you Iranians are not going around calling themselves “Persian” except to Americans (and even then, only to shield themselves from potential bigotry).


DP. Hold on. There are a couple of Iranian families at my swimming pool. They refer to themselves and Iran as Persia/Persians all the time.

It's a thing of pride, given their rich history. But what the hell do you know.


Again, TO AMERICANS. Amongst themselves, Iranians do not typically refer to themselves as Persians. There is no real equivalent word in Farsi.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 21:07     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Op, what religion are you?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 21:06     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:Well, Israel has been crying about Iran being close to nuclear ability since 2012 or 2015 or something. I think it was 2018 they were gonna have it in a couple wks! They were talking about it and then the next thing you know, it's a pre-emptive strike. Sorry but I question what shadiness is going on that Trump made a deal about with Israel because it's not about nuclear weapons.


Netanyahu stood on a podium in the middle of Congress and said Iran was “days or weeks away” from a bomb. This was 2015.

Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 21:00     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Well, Israel has been crying about Iran being close to nuclear ability since 2012 or 2015 or something. I think it was 2018 they were gonna have it in a couple wks! They were talking about it and then the next thing you know, it's a pre-emptive strike. Sorry but I question what shadiness is going on that Trump made a deal about with Israel because it's not about nuclear weapons.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 20:23     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:Iran lost a quarter to half its population under Allied occupation during WW2. Iran had its elected government over thrown by the US because BP did not want to pay royalties on Iranian oil. The US installed a brutal dictator to suppress democracy in Iran.

Iran has treated all Jews citizens with respect. How does the US and Israel repay that with bombings and killing.



Oh, the UK had something to do with Mossaddegh also. Or did you just conveniently leave that fact out?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 20:18     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone really wants to prove they’re Iranian


Exactly. Except ALL the Iranians I know call themselves Persian.


DP. Same. But also, there's a reason for that...


I can promise you Iranians are not going around calling themselves “Persian” except to Americans (and even then, only to shield themselves from potential bigotry).


DP. Hold on. There are a couple of Iranian families at my swimming pool. They refer to themselves and Iran as Persia/Persians all the time.

It's a thing of pride, given their rich history. But what the hell do you know.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 20:01     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How can you speak for the Iranian people? There are 90 million of them. By generalizing your perspective to everyone, you really showed your hand.

As an American, I may dislike Donald Trump but that doesn’t mean I want the White House and Pentagon to get firebombed by a foreign nation as part of a regime change war.

Politics and patriotism are two separate orders of business. A real person wouldn’t want their home country entangled in a war.

Go back to the drawing board and try again


I don’t claim to speak for all Iranian people. Just myself and many of those I am in contact with. My people are entangled in chaos and violence either way. At least intervention would have a productive purpose.


So you speak for Persian Jews, then?

Deciphering your intentions would be so much easier for others if you had mentioned that at the jump.

I mean, I’m sure most people caught on immediately, but for others, you need to be a little more explicit.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 19:22     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sending you strength, OP, as you watch your homeland suffer. I agree with everything you said, but still... it must be very hard for the Iranian diaspora, and even more so for your relatives on the ground.

I don't think any rational people disagree with you, but most of us are VERY worried about the potential for dirty bombs, regime change and the chaos and pain it can bring on millions of Iranians and neighboring populations. Please don't discount that risk. It happened in many countries around the world, including ones you are no doubt familiar with in the Middle East.

Persian culture is a beautiful one. I hope Iran becomes a progressive country once again!


when specifically do you think it was progressive? Before or after we re installed the Shah in 1957?


Progressive for its time and compared to now, during the White Revolution. That's what I meant. When women were allowed in public in shorts and blouses, no headscarves. I am aware that this was still an authoritarian regime, the excesses of which led to the Islamic Revolution.

Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 18:38     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:Sending you strength, OP, as you watch your homeland suffer. I agree with everything you said, but still... it must be very hard for the Iranian diaspora, and even more so for your relatives on the ground.

I don't think any rational people disagree with you, but most of us are VERY worried about the potential for dirty bombs, regime change and the chaos and pain it can bring on millions of Iranians and neighboring populations. Please don't discount that risk. It happened in many countries around the world, including ones you are no doubt familiar with in the Middle East.

Persian culture is a beautiful one. I hope Iran becomes a progressive country once again!


when specifically do you think it was progressive? Before or after we re installed the Shah in 1957?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 18:07     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Sending you strength, OP, as you watch your homeland suffer. I agree with everything you said, but still... it must be very hard for the Iranian diaspora, and even more so for your relatives on the ground.

I don't think any rational people disagree with you, but most of us are VERY worried about the potential for dirty bombs, regime change and the chaos and pain it can bring on millions of Iranians and neighboring populations. Please don't discount that risk. It happened in many countries around the world, including ones you are no doubt familiar with in the Middle East.

Persian culture is a beautiful one. I hope Iran becomes a progressive country once again!


Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 17:56     Subject: An Iranian’s perspective
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:America and Israel should be more concerned without our eroding freedoms and path to autocracy (Netanyahu, Trump). We cannot stand on the soapbox of freedom
And democracy from tyranny when we are on that path as well


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This sort of moral equivalence is so tiresome. For all our problems (and I agree with you that we are on that path), we are not Iran or anywhere close to it. Demanding that the US cure itself of all its ills before defending itself on the world stage will insure there is no America left to perfect/improve.


More Americans, by a wide margin, are against this war than for it, so if the felon strikes, what does that tell you?