Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Claremont Colleges are top notch!
bottom notch! low quality!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Where are you getting $85K?
Over three quarters, the OOS tuition supplement at Berkeley and UCLA is around $34K total … so OOS 2025 applicants would be looking at a total cost of $70 - $75K, max. per year. If dorm living is dropped for apartment or Greek life housing, $65 - $70K is very achievable. And yes, that includes airfares for move-in / out, holidays, etc.
I get that $70K is still a lot, but citing $85K seems intentionally dishonest.
First I'm rooting for your $34K tuition best for everyone from DMV. I'm looking at: https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/tuition-financial-aid/tuition-cost-of-attendance/ and I see: $50,328; The total direct cost is closer to your number: $76,028.
Cal Poly seems closer to your estimated tuition: https://www.calpoly.edu/financial-aid/costs-and-affordability/undergraduate-costs-attendance-2025-26 $37,005 for tuition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Where are you getting $85K?
Over three quarters, the OOS tuition supplement at Berkeley and UCLA is around $34K total … so OOS 2025 applicants would be looking at a total cost of $70 - $75K, max. per year. If dorm living is dropped for apartment or Greek life housing, $65 - $70K is very achievable. And yes, that includes airfares for move-in / out, holidays, etc.
I get that $70K is still a lot, but citing $85K seems intentionally dishonest.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Where are you getting $85K?
Over three quarters, the OOS tuition supplement at Berkeley and UCLA is around $34K total … so OOS 2025 applicants would be looking at a total cost of $70 - $75K, max. per year. If dorm living is dropped for apartment or Greek life housing, $65 - $70K is very achievable. And yes, that includes airfares for move-in / out, holidays, etc.
I get that $70K is still a lot, but citing $85K seems intentionally dishonest.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Where are you getting $85K?
Over three quarters, the OOS tuition supplement at Berkeley and UCLA is around $34K total … so OOS 2025 applicants would be looking at a total cost of $70 - $75K, max. per year. If dorm living is dropped for apartment or Greek life housing, $65 - $70K is very achievable. And yes, that includes airfares for move-in / out, holidays, etc.
I get that $70K is still a lot, but citing $85K seems intentionally dishonest.
Yes this is correct I was going to write the same thing. OOS for the UC (and the Cal States are even lower) is still much lower than the price of places like USC
USC also doesn’t lock-in the COA the way the UCs do, so the $101K COA for this Fall’s freshman class at USC (the COA published by USC doesn’t include a credible transportation assumption for OOS students) will likely balloon to at least $110K by their senior year.
$420K vs. $280K
So when you see posts asserting that the OOS costs at Berkeley or UCLA are basically the same as the costs at USC or Stanford, just know that you’re being fed inaccurate information by someone who is either uninformed or has an agenda.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Where are you getting $85K?
Over three quarters, the OOS tuition supplement at Berkeley and UCLA is around $34K total … so OOS 2025 applicants would be looking at a total cost of $70 - $75K, max. per year. If dorm living is dropped for apartment or Greek life housing, $65 - $70K is very achievable. And yes, that includes airfares for move-in / out, holidays, etc.
I get that $70K is still a lot, but citing $85K seems intentionally dishonest.
Yes this is correct I was going to write the same thing. OOS for the UC (and the Cal States are even lower) is still much lower than the price of places like USC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Where are you getting $85K?
Over three quarters, the OOS tuition supplement at Berkeley and UCLA is around $34K total … so OOS 2025 applicants would be looking at a total cost of $70 - $75K, max. per year. If dorm living is dropped for apartment or Greek life housing, $65 - $70K is very achievable. And yes, that includes airfares for move-in / out, holidays, etc.
I get that $70K is still a lot, but citing $85K seems intentionally dishonest.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The flip side to UC systems being so great is that admissions is basically a lottery for high stat kids in high performing areas which is really frustrating for families in the Bay Area, LA and some parts of SD. It’s flipped where lower stat OOS kids breeze in while perfect stat kids get the lowest rung. I was shocked at how many perfect stat kids with great ECs were flat out rejected from even the mid tier UCs.
If private colleges were not so outrageously expensive, there wouldn’t be the intense pressure on the UCs.
Not sure about the "OOS kids breeze in"; It's a claim I've seen on DCUM before but no one's ever posted a citation to confirm it. If not a citation - what made you come to that conclusion?
Look at UCSD. 2024 OOS was 34%, instate was 26%. At our public high school, the rate is 6%. UCD is a better example OOS was 60%, instate 34%, our school was 9%.
For UCSD I'm seeing 9% OOS and 16% international. https://ir.ucsd.edu/stats/publications/21_22_StudentProfiles.pdf
For UCD I'm seeing 4.0% OOS and 10.4% international. https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/uc-davis-enrollment-makes-progress-diversity
Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cal Tech in Pasedena.
? for film and business? While it's an amazing school for STEM, I wouldn't pick Caltech for business and film.
I'm originally from CA.
Missed that. For film and business, in this order:
USC
UCLA
Pepperdine
Loyola
You missed Chapman which fits right between usc and ucla. Also, while Pepperdine has been filmed many times the school doesn’t have a strong film presence and Loyola is a better choice for so.
Why do people keep saying Chapman? It's a conservative college in OC in the suburb.
Anonymous wrote:OOS students have higher admit rates than in-state students because fewer of them actually end up matriculating. A stunning number of families don't look at the UC price tag and assume there'll bee some sort of aid available to them. At the end of the day, when they're considering a not-UCLA/UCB school in the UC system at $85,000 per year, they end up deciding to go to a private school or their in-state option.
If the yield were higher for OOS students, the admit rate would drop. As a concrete example, note that the yield rate for UCLA/UCB is much higher than the other schools, and their OOS admit rate is either the same as in-state (UCLA) or even lower (UCB).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The flip side to UC systems being so great is that admissions is basically a lottery for high stat kids in high performing areas which is really frustrating for families in the Bay Area, LA and some parts of SD. It’s flipped where lower stat OOS kids breeze in while perfect stat kids get the lowest rung. I was shocked at how many perfect stat kids with great ECs were flat out rejected from even the mid tier UCs.
If private colleges were not so outrageously expensive, there wouldn’t be the intense pressure on the UCs.
This does not happen. CA should just designate a certain portion of seats as “ non-resident price” but allow in state families to take them as well. Easily fill them in state.